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Article #1686Re: The Media Cover-Up of the Gore Victory
From: Mark Cook
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:22
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:22
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"Baxter" <lbax01.spamguard@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:100uq0e88cbo805@corp.supernews.com... > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Free software - Baxter Codeworks www.baxcode.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "Michael Dix" <look@sig.please.because.this.is.invalid> wrote in message > news:400F5D18.8050900@sig.please.because.this.is.invalid... > > Baxter wrote: > > > > > It wasn't the Democratic Party. You're attempting to paint the Dems as > a > > > villain. They're not. Far more damage was done to democracy by the > > > Repuglicans blocking the count than was ever done by anyone's attempt to > > > enforce laws on the books. The specific case you cite is simply a > > > difference between Federal and State law that has nothing to do with > > > Political parties. In fact, the ruling points that out. > > > > All the countable (i.e. machine-readable) votes were counted. Next > > time, punch the chads all the way through. > > > > The "state law" applied to mutilated ballots, not unpunched ones. > > > State law applies to all ballots where the "intent of the voter" can be > determined. You can turn in a unpunched card with your selection written on > it and it is valid and countable. As Gore's Florida Campaign Chair (Fla Attny Gen Bob Butterworth - D) admitted, Florida case law does NOT allow manual recounts for voter error. "(f) Prior practice before this election, which was not to do a manual recount because of the claim that a county's machines were failing to count partially perforated or indented chads. See Transcript of Oral Arg. in Bush, at 39-40 (concession of Florida Attorney General that no county had previously done so). For example, in Broward County Canvassing Board v. Hogan, 607 So.2d 508, 509 (Fla. 4th DCA 1992), the board recognized that "voter error in piercing of computer ballot cards created loose or hanging paper chads." But the board declined to do a manual recount even though two machine counts indicated a margin of 3-5 votes. "Such voter errors, the board explained, are caused by hesitant piercing, no piercing, or intentional or unintentional multiple piercing of computer ballot cards, creating what are referred to as overvotes and undervotes. The board thereupon declined appellee's request for a recount". Id. (emphasis added). Thus, before this election, the fact that a request for a manual recount was based on incompletely perforated chads was considered not just insufficient, but an affirmative reason to reject a manual recount because the request was based on voter error rather than on machine or ballot defects." http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/election/floridahouse.pdf
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10e835,8fad2993b78a4d44 X-Google-Attributes: gid10e835,public X-Google-Thread: 10a12a,8fad2993b78a4d44 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a12a,public X-Google-Thread: 1128d6,8fad2993b78a4d44 X-Google-Attributes: gid1128d6,public X-Google-Thread: 107d03,8fad2993b78a4d44 X-Google-Attributes: gid107d03,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-01-22 05:23:03 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!newshosting.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!news-feed01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net!nntp.frontiernet.net!prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr31.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!f5692621!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Mark Cook" <mcook@prodigy.net> From: "Mark Cook" <mcook@prodigy.net> Newsgroups: pdx.general,la.general,ny.general,chi.general References: <1072409899.59200@irys.nyx.net> <TD2Ob.4503$%86.2311@bignews4.bellsouth.net> <100hkj8rfm3bv6f@corp.supernews.com> <ULiOb.57905$ri6.17329@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com> <100jvja4ko3vudf@corp.supernews.com> <hYpOb.9823$Dv2.2915@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com> <100lqh9ce2sa579@corp.supernews.com> <_jEOb.58217$eL3.29960@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com> <100mc32s12l6e3f@corp.supernews.com> <z1MOb.58325$A45.8958@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com> <100o1v346ru654c@corp.supernews.com> <Q9YOb.58644$dW6.42750@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com> <100oumfaef9f5af@corp.supernews.com> <7W0Pb.26489$%y6.22893@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com> <100qlutj3jh0n96@corp.supernews.com> <brePb.59391$cF1.3300@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com> <100r4ce5p9cv023@corp.supernews.com> <FBhPb.26888$bZ.20304@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com> <100ro39n2orgd8e@corp.supernews.com> <GDmPb.26944$qV1.1665@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com> <100tats5ikbs89e@corp.supernews.com> <400F5D18.8050900@sig.please.because.this.is.invalid> <100uq0e88cbo805@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: The Media Cover-Up of the Gore Victory Lines: 56 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <z8QPb.61002$Wy7.44429@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.73.158.106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr31.news.prodigy.com 1074777759 ST000 66.73.158.106 (Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:22:39 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:22:39 EST Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com X-UserInfo1: Q[R_PJSCOHUURQTXEBCDN_HAQB^H@IPDLXUNNHPHBATBTSUBYFWEAE[YJLYPIWKHTFCMZKVMB^[Z^DOBRVVMOSPFHNSYXVDIE@X\BUC@GTSX@DL^GKFFHQCCE\G[JJBMYDYIJCZM@AY]GNGPJD]YNNW\GSX^GSCKHA[]@CCB\[@LATPD\L@J\\PF]VR[QPJN Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:22:39 GMT