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Article #1701Re: The Media Cover-Up of the Gore Victory
From: Baxter
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 02:13
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 02:13
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-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Free software - Baxter Codeworks www.baxcode.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Mark Cook" <mcook@prodigy.net> wrote in message news:FBhPb.26888$bZ.20304@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com... > "Baxter" <lbax01.spamguard@baxcode.com> wrote in message > news:100r4ce5p9cv023@corp.supernews.com... > > -- > > > > >As I said, the Democrat were illegally throwing out legal overseas > ballots. > > > > Lie. None of the ballots were thrown out. > > Why would a judge order the inclusion of ballots that had NOT been thrown > out??? Democrats, huh? Your source impeaches this claim - it says nothing about the Democratic Party. Further: ---------- While the Bush campaign loudly criticized a Gore supporter's memo that laid out a strategy to challenge overseas ballots, the Bush team had its own such strategy, the Times reported. A Bush campaign memo laid out a two-pronged strategy � telling Bush lawyers how to challenge "illegal" civilian votes that they assumed would be for Gore and also how to defend equally defective military ballots, the Times said. Ginsberg acknowledged that they had fought for military ballots while opposing ballots from civilians. Others involved in the campaign denied it. http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/july01/2001-07-14-flawed-ballots.htm > > It is further ORDERED that all federal write-in ballots rejected for the > above stated reasons are declared valid." > > http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/election/hills.pdf > > I guess the Judge was bored so he made up this case. You've got a few counties that rejected some ballots based on Florida law. The judge ruled that Federal Law superceded state law - "Collectively, Defendants rejected ballots that arrived without a postmark, with an illegible postmark, or with a postmark dated after election day if there was no handwritten date on the envelope to suggest that the vote was cast before November 7, 2003. See FLA. ADMIN. CODE 1S-2.013" Some ballots had signatures that did not match the signatures on file with the board. Do actually read the ruling. What you've really got is a case of a Federal court making State Law. You've also got the case of Bush targeting only those counties where he thought the absentee ballots would favor him. ---------------------- Republican attorney Fred H. Bartlit Jr. said the lawsuit targeted only 13 counties because the GOP "wanted to move fast" and wanted to limit the complaint to the degree possible to those counties that have the greatest number of military ballots. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2000/11/22/170150.shtml You've also got the problem that while Bush fought to ensure that the Military votes were accepted no matter how questionable, he also fought to disenfranchise regular voters. The Repugs also stood ready to have the Repuglican-controled Florida State Legislature to appoint electors regardless of the count. ------------ bottom line is you've got a few legal challenges, and not the wholesale disenfranchisement that you've been trying to claim. --------- Q: What's the status of Florida's overseas military ballots? Were they included in the certified tally? A:Upon learning that some overseas ballots were excluded (because of late postmarks, no postmarks or no witness signature) the Bush legal team filed a suit in Leon County court (where Tallahassee is located) asking that those ballots be reintroduced into the hand count. Several days later, the suit was withdrawn, after Bush lawyers were satisfied that most counties had included many of the overseas ballots. The GOP legal team maintained, however, that it was prepared to refile a suit if they learn there are counties which decide definitively not to reexamine their overseas ballots � and Friday, December 1, they did just that, bringing suit against seven counties and charging that all overseas absentee ballots, regardless of postmark, should be counted. On December 11 a federal appeals court upheld that lawsuit. http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,88674,00.html
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