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Article #1811Re: Measure 48 could give Oregon the nation's fastest economic growth
From: Curt
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 06:58
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 06:58
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<Dan S. Milagros> wrote in message news:aeque2le0fqnp0t51phse852taidk4sada@4ax.com... > On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 08:11:24 -0700, pjberg@webtv.net (Paul J. Berg) > wrote: > > > > >What if Oregon could enjoy the fastest economic growth rate of any state > >over the next five years? What if, over the next two years, Oregon could > >build a rainy day fund in excess of $2 billion to help cushion > >inevitable economic downturns? > > > >The first scenario above is what actually happened in Colorado from 1995 > >through 2000, the first five years of its citizen-imposed spending > >limitation, known there as TABOR, or Taxpayer Bill of Rights. The second > >scenario is what forecasters predict will happen here over the next two > >years if Oregonians pass a spending limitation on the November ballot > >known as the Rainy Day Amendment. > > > >Tax and expenditure limitations are on the books in some 30 states, > >keeping the size of government in check through limiting either state > >revenue or spending. They generally do so by tying government growth to > >either the growth of personal income or to a combination of inflation > >plus population growth. Inflation plus population growth has > >historically been more consistent and less volatile than the growth of > >personal income, which can fluctuate widely. > > > >Colorado's TABOR amendment is actually quite different from the proposed > >Oregon Rainy Day Amendment. TABOR limits growth in both state and local > >government revenue. It requires that revenue above the limitation be > >returned to taxpayers, which worked well during the economic boom of the > >late 1990s, but which put downward pressure on government budgets during > >the bust that occurred in the early part of this decade. This so-called > >ratchet down effect caused Colorado voters to suspend TABOR for five > >years beginning last November. > > > >Oregon's Rainy Day proposal limits not revenue, but expenditures. It > >applies only to the state, not to local governments. Revenue collected > >above the limitation can either be kept in a rainy day fund or returned > >to taxpayers at the legislature's discretion. Oregon's proposal has no > >ratchet down mechanism. > > > >In fact, unlike in Colorado, if state revenues decline here the > >government can call on the rainy day funds accumulated during the good > >times to maintain state spending. Also, as in Colorado, the legislature > >and citizens can vote to override the limits in the future. > > > >The projected $2.2 billion that Oregon๏ฟฝ?Ts Rainy Day ballot > >measure might keep from being spent over the next two years is being > >portrayed as a "loss"? by opponents of the measure. They want voters > >to believe that such a large amount of money will starve essential state > >services. What they fail to acknowledge is that this money still will be > >collected, just not spent right away. Also, the $2.2 billion should be > >compared to the state's All Funds budget (currently over $42 billion) > >rather than to the General Fund (currently almost $12 billion). > > > >The legislature will have wide discretion in how it applies the > >amendment's limit on total spending, and it will have no explicit limits > >on the General Fund. Legislators thus could make spending adjustments > >that would largely hold harmless budget items such as education, human > >services, and public safety which make up over 90 percent of the General > >Fund. > > > >Both Oregon's Rainy Day Amendment and TABOR base their limits on growth > >of state population and inflation. But beyond that, Oregon's proposal > >gives the state more latitude to preserve excess revenues in a rainy day > >fund, rather than return them to taxpayers. Opponents of the measure > >today likely will be the first to argue for keeping those excess > >revenues if it passes in November. > > > >Sustainability is such a big concept in Oregon that it should be applied > >to government growth as well as to the environment. Oregon's All Funds > >budget grew twice as fast as the combined increase in population and > >inflation over the past ten years, clearly not a sustainable path. > >Opponents of the Rainy Day Amendment have the burden to explain why > >state government should be allowed to grow faster than the private > >sector. Oregon's tax revenues are highly variable from year to year > >because of our reliance on income and capital gains taxes. Programs > >begun at the height of a boom cannot be continued during a recession > >except through tax hikes or borrowing. Opponents of the Rainy Day > >Amendment have the burden to explain how better to cushion future > >economic downturns if state government continues to immediately spend > >every dime that comes in the door. > > > >The Rainy Day Amendment offers the best features of the Colorado > >limitation, which led to strong economic growth during the boom, while > >avoiding the worst features that kept Colorado from easily adjusting to > >the bust. Oregonians who want their government to be fiscally > >responsible should seriously consider the opportunity it presents. > Oh my gosh...a ballot initiative signed by thousands of Oregon > citizens seeking to reign in government spending...and all the far > left extremist and unions are upset. > Well....not all unions...just those unions who get there money from > government workers. > > lordy lordy poor old government with it's million dollar light rails > and jails that are built and not used...and government with screwed up > tram deals. > > are the voters gonna be frightened away by the doom and gloom from > these fake unions? > > you think supporters of this ballot measure will be bombed...recall > that Bill Sizemore's political office was bombed. Will the lefties get > who next? Didn't the sheriff's office say they thought he'd bombed his own office to destroy records so he wouldn't have to produce them as a defendant later? There was something like that going on. I don't recall exactly. Curt
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