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Article #1881Re: Tri-Met Transit Mall Open House (WAS: Elevating MAX light rail thru downtown Portland, Oregon)
From: Jason McHuff
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 04:08
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 04:08
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wrob <wrob@erols.com> wrote in message news:<3F138F95.1270DD90@erols.com>... > Jason McHuff wrote: > > > > Why would they close the bus mal for construction except under the > > > assumption that rail will be built right down the bus mall medians? > > > I bet you they leave the auto lanes open during construction, BTW. > > > > > They are also going to renovate the mall. Repaving? > > Good excuse for washing their hands of the bus system. The closure is temp. And not the whole mall at once. http://www.trimet.org/promotions/pdf/construction_management.pdf ... > > > If the political situation were different, it'd be eminently feasible > > > and desirable. They funded an elevated system in Seattle at the depth > > > of the current recession. But methinks the topography (views of Mount > > > Hood) and tax situation in Portland (terrible) makes it a long shot at > > > the present time. > > > > > I still don't see how it would block views of Mt. Hood. I see it only > > blocking views of the buildings across the street. > > The views are to be had on CROSS streets (on smogless days, granted > it's usually impossible unless you're up in the hills.) If MAX were > built today they could probably get away with sealing off the viewshed > on one of the 20 cross streets (Yamhill or Morrison or whatever). > > But a north-south line affects views on every single cross street for > every single developer who tells people that they can see the river > from their condo balcony if they look to their right (or left). > I now see your point. An el structure shouldn't be that big; however, I agree that it could well be an annoyance in trying to look at the river. As you note, that could be a big issue w/developers. > Now I don't care about that personally, but developers do. Oh yeah > an elevated line between Pioneer Courthouse and Pioneer Courthouse > Square would be a non-starter. Another reason not to use 6th... Good news is that the streetcar is that way also on a N-S route. --Jason McHuff, Salem, OR
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