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Re: Tri-Met Transit Mall Open House (WAS: Elevating MAX light rail thru downtown Portland, Oregon)

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From: Jason McHuff
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 04:08
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wrob <wrob@erols.com> wrote in message news:<3F138F95.1270DD90@erols.com>...
> Jason McHuff wrote:
> 
> > > Why would they close the bus mal for construction except under the
> > > assumption that rail will be built right down the bus mall medians?
> > > I bet you they leave the auto lanes open during construction, BTW.
> > >
> > They are also going to renovate the mall.  Repaving?
> 
> Good excuse for washing their hands of the bus system.

The closure is temp.  And not the whole mall at once.
http://www.trimet.org/promotions/pdf/construction_management.pdf
...
> > > If the political situation were different, it'd be eminently feasible
> > > and desirable.  They funded an elevated system in Seattle at the depth
> > > of the current recession.  But methinks the topography (views of Mount
> > > Hood) and tax situation in Portland (terrible) makes it a long shot at
> > > the present time.
> > >
> > I still don't see how it would block views of Mt. Hood.  I see it only
> > blocking views of the buildings across the street.
> 
> The views are to be had on CROSS streets (on smogless days, granted
> it's usually impossible unless you're up in the hills.) If MAX were 
> built today they could probably get away with sealing off the viewshed
> on one of the 20 cross streets (Yamhill or Morrison or whatever).
>  
> But a north-south line affects views on every single cross street for 
> every single developer who tells people that they can see the river
> from their condo balcony if they look to their right (or left).
> 
I now see your point.  An el structure shouldn't be that big; however,
I agree that it could well be an annoyance in trying to look at the
river.  As you note, that could be a big issue w/developers.

> Now I don't care about that personally, but developers do.  Oh yeah
> an elevated line between Pioneer Courthouse and Pioneer Courthouse
> Square would be a non-starter.  

Another reason not to use 6th...  Good news is that the streetcar is
that way also on a N-S route.

--Jason McHuff, Salem, OR
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Subject: Re: Tri-Met Transit Mall Open House (WAS: Elevating MAX light rail    thru   downtown Portland, Oregon)
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