Re: Oregon's New Bottle & E Waste Laws

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From: Paul Mitchum
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 03:08

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Lobby Dosser <lobby.dosser.mapson@verizon.net> wrote:

> usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote:
> 
> > Springbok <bok@afr.ica> wrote:
> > 
> >> Ockham's Razor wrote:
> >> > In article <1hzefz1.11v435u25c9rtN%usenet@mile23.c0m>,
> >> > usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote:
> >> > 
> >> >> Yeah, but in the mean time, if you have a TV or a CRT on your
> >> >> hands, you shouldn't just throw it into a dumpster, because it's
> >> >> toxic waste. 
> >> > 
> >> > Anyone who produces a product containing "toxic" materials should
> >> > have to recycle that product at no cost to the consumer.
> >> 
> >> You do understand that ALL product costs are born by the consumer?
> > 
> > In the case of TVs and CRTs, the disposal costs are not borne by the
> > consumer or the producer.
> > 
> > What needs to happen is that products become more and more modular and
> > recyclable, to the point that buying a TV would be more like
> > subscribing to a service than buying property. You'd get a TV, and
> > then in a year or two, you'd return it for an upgrade.
> > 
> > The TV service company would take your old TV and re-use its
> > components to create new ones. The remaining waste would ideally feed
> > into other products, or be a recyclable or biodegradable material.
> 
> Unfortunately the reality is that we - and I mean the global we - are
> trapped in a cycle of consumption to fuel job creation.

No, we're not trapped at all. Someone still has to manufacture the
products, it's just that they'll use pre-existing components, which, by
the way, someone has to take apart first.

The difference is that the system is designed to produce less waste, and
more costs are internalized into the company. This is a better situation
for everybody.

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http://www.xoverboard.com/cartoons/2007/070416_argument.html

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Subject: Re: Oregon's New Bottle & E Waste Laws
From: usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum)
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