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Article #896Re: It's all about gasoline!
From: mrmcafee(nospam)
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:09
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:09
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Duke Kahanamoku wrote:
> On Jun 8, 10:57 pm, Larry in AZ <usen...@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Waiving the right to remain silent, Duke Kahanamoku <clipper.sm...@gmail.com>
>>said:
>>
>>
>>>Socialism is an economic system wherein each enterprise is wholly
>>>owned by its employees, ie there are no absentee owners of a socialist
>>>enterpris, and, all employees of a socialist enterprise participate in
>>>the profits of their enterprise in a meaningful way.
>>
>>Which has yet to happen. "Socialized enterprise" usually results in
>>everything being reduced to the lowest common denominator, and everyone doing
>>barely what's necessary to collect a paycheck.
>
>
> You are mixing two ideas again. I didn't say "socialized enterprise."
> I said "socialist enterprise." These two are different. A socialized
> enterprise is like a universal health care system that is subsidized
> by public taxes. But you are wrong about what happens to them. There
> are several such socialized health care systems in operation in
> nations around the globe, and they are doing well. You won't find many
> people in Australia or Norway, for examples, who want to dismantle
> those health care systems.
>
>
>>As some of the former Communists in the USSR were fond of saying, "We pretend
>>to work, and the government pretends to pay us."
>
>
> That wasn't socialism. It wasn't even state socialism. It was
> totalitarianism. Socialism requires democracy.
No it doesn't.
>
>
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