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Re: It's all about gasoline!

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From: trijicon
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 23:07
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gatt wrote:
> <Caddyshack.Al@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:1181290168.395848.154180@n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> 
>> Who are Conservatives? They are college educated, middle-class people
>> with families,
> 
> Ah.  Like Spammy.  A real PhD.

Ah gothman, always a cowardly sideswipe but never the balls to say it 
one on one.

> I'm interested in the conservative family values; especially those exhibited 
> by Gingrich, Giuliani and pretty much everybody else who's ever had an 
> affair or divorce and then gotten up and rattled about the sanctity of 
> marriage, etc.

What about the Kennedy values.

>> who, according to survey released today, watch a lot less TV than 
>> liberals.
> 
> I bet they listen to a lot more talk radio.

That has to be curtailed, eh censor?

> Warren Buffet is a liberal.   He's wealthier than all of the Republicans 
> reading this combined.  Not sure how much TV he watches.
> 
> -c 
George Soros is a liberal too, guess what he does:

http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=151

George Soros: Anti-Gunner Who Would Remake America

George Soros has made an immense fortune manipulating international 
stock and currency markets. Over the past few years the Hungarian-born 
billionaire has used that fortune to become a preeminent funding source 
for global gun control. Directly and through his organization Open 
Society Institute (OSI), he has funneled cash to various anti-gun 
groups, such as the Tides Foundation, the HELP Network and SAFE 
Colorado. He and seven rich friends founded their own political 
committee--Campaign for a Progressive Future--and spent $2 million on 
political activities in 2000, including providing the prime financial 
backing for the Million Mom March. OSI has supported UN efforts to 
create international gun control regulations and has singled out the 
United States for failing to go along with the international 
gun-prohibitionists.

Soros has worked to combine with other wealthy activists and foundations 
to provide funding for numerous anti-gun projects. Soros and the Irene 
Diamond Foundation made equal $5 million contributions to form the 
Funders` Collaborative for Gun Violence Prevention. This organization 
has provided funding to the anti-gun Harvard Injury Control Center and 
has helped bankroll reckless lawsuits designed to cripple the firearms 
industry. OSI and the Funders` Collaborative (using money largely 
supplied by Soros) was the primary funding source for the plaintiffs in 
Hamilton v. Accu-tek and in NAACP v. ACUSPORT Inc. OSI provided $300,000 
to the plaintiffs` lawyers in the Hamilton case and provided a grant 
identified as between $100,000 and $499,000 in the NAACP case.

When Soros and OSI decided to start spending great sums of money on 
anti-gun research and advocacy, they went in search of an experienced 
activist to guide the effort. Soros came up with Rebecca Peters, a 
central figure in disarming the people of Australia, and a leader in the 
effort to ban all handguns and most long guns. Under Peters` direction, 
OSI soon released "Gun Control in The United States." This strikingly 
simplistic evaluation of gun laws in the 50 states purposefully ignored 
federal firearms laws and arbitrarily awarded various point values to 
each state that has imposed gun control restrictions favored by the group.

Such restrictions include, for example, compact handgun prohibitions, 
gun registration and gun owner licensing, various gun sale regulations 
and gun storage requirements. States that do not allow local 
jurisdictions to impose gun laws more restrictive than state law are 
penalized in the Society`s point system. States that prohibit the filing 
of junk lawsuits against the firearm industry are also penalized, as are 
states that do not duplicate the federal age requirement for possessing 
a handgun.

Out of a maximum of 100 points possible in OSI`s point system, only 
seven states received scores above 30%. The other 43 states, OSI claims, 
"lack even `basic gun control laws` [and therefore] fall below minimum 
standards for public safety." Twenty-three of the supposedly 
sub-standard states got scores of zero or below. You would never know 
this is a country with more than 20,000 gun laws.

The plain truth, of course, is that the "particular regulatory measures" 
we know as "gun control" are absolute failures in the war on crime. Case 
in point: the average violent crime rate of the seven states whose gun 
laws OSI believes best is 21% higher than the average rate for the 43 
states OSI believes are "below minimum standards for public safety." Of 
the 10 states that have the lowest violent crime rates in America, eight 
received scores of zero or below, and the Society`s favorite state, 
Massachusetts, has a violent crime rate five times higher than its least 
favorite state, Maine.

In addition to his efforts to undermine the Second Amendment rights of 
Americans, Soros has spent over two decades trying to influence the 
political and social development in various parts of the world, 
particularly the nations of the former Soviet bloc. In the United 
States, Soros has given many millions of dollars to finance 
pro-marijuana initiative campaigns. He has been called "the Daddy 
Warbucks of drug legalization," by former Democratic Cabinet Member 
Joseph Califano.

Soros is now using his fortune to not only to unseat President George 
Bush, but also to challenge the United States` role in the world. The 
aging billionaire has decided to use his fortune to remake America as he 
thinks it should be. And he is spending loads of cash to do it. Soros 
has obscenely likened President Bush to Hitler and his administration to 
Nazi Germany and has described the United States as "a danger to the 
world." To promote such slanders, he has committed $5 million to the 
strongly anti-Bush group MoveOn, and has promised $10 million to a new 
liberal activist group America Coming Together (ACT). These groups are 
focused not only on defeating George Bush in 2004, but on achieving vast 
social change in America which would include the dismantling of Second 
Amendment rights. He has declared that he intends to raise and spend $75 
million dollars to oust Bush and force a "regime change" in America.

Soros is intent on making American sovereignty subject to international 
will. He calls America`s actions to protect its citizens from terrorism 
as "supremacist." In its place he would have the U.S. adopt the "Soros 
doctrine." Under the Soros doctrine, U.S. interests would be replaced by 
international "collective action." His support for international gun 
bans fits hand in glove with his vision of an America subservient to an 
international collective will.

With his vast fortune to bankroll his activities, it is clear that Soros 
wants not only to be the king-maker, but to set American policies to his 
liking in a nation remade to suit his extremist vision.

Soros` decision to spend tens of millions of dollars to influence the 
2004 election flies in the face of his earlier crusades against the use 
of "soft" money in political campaigns. Over the past seven years, Soros 
has donated close to $7 million dollars to efforts to reform campaign 
finance laws. Now he is spending tens of millions in "soft" money 
political ads to influence the 2004 election. This hypocrisy has drawn 
the condemnation not only of political foes, but of former ally Fred 
Werthiemer, the former Common Cause director, who now says "we`ll be 
watch-dogging him closely."

Soros sees the defeat of George Bush as "a matter of life and death," 
and is as dedicated to that goal as he has been to eliminating our 
Second Amendment rights. He has already spent $15.5 million in this new 
quest and has stated "If necessary, I would give more money."
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