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Started by Paul Berg
Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:53
Portland's Day Labor Center Plan
Author: Paul Berg
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:53
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:53
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--WebTV-Mail-3016-2644 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable ~ news report from KATU News (Portland, Oregon) - August 24, 2007 As the debate over the eventual status and social support of illegal immigrants in the United States continues to be a focal point of controversy, the mayor of Portland and the Portland City Council say they are planning to build a center that would help dozens of legal and illegal day laborers. Representatives of=A0=A0Mayor Tom Potter's office recently went to Seattle to tour the "day labor center" in operation there. Portland Mayor Tom Potter has repeatedly said he would like to see a similar facility in Portland. In Seattle, the action begins before 6 a.m. most days. Men wait for Casa Latina, Seattle's day labor center to open. They are all hoping to find work for the day. Each morning, they check in, get a raffle ticket, and by 6:15 a.m. they wait for their number to be picked. If their number does come up, each worker is given a bright vest so prospective employers know who's part of the program. The workers are either picked up by employers who pull curbside or the center takes bookings over the phone and delivers the workers by van to job sites. In the eight years since the Casa Latina center opened, wages have been raised three times. Currently, workers are paid a minimum $12 an hour for gardening=A0=A0and up to $20 an hour for specialized work like setting tile. Hilary Stern, executive director of Casa Latina, said that "before we started the center there were a couple hundred people standing in the street looking for work in this neighborhood. We've been able to get most of them off the street and into the center." Back in Portland at Southeast 6th Avenue and East Burnside street, day laborers hang out in the open near a fence as they have for years. Many are in the state and country illegally. One man KATU talked to told us that he was in the country illegally but was not afraid of getting caught by the police. In Portland and Seattle, police are not allowed to ask the immigration status of those they come into contact with. In Seattle, Casa Latina operators say they have been told no immigration raids will be conducted at the facility. Portland's mayor and the City Council voted to spend $200,000 of city seed money to mimic what Seattle has created at Casa Latina. Mayor Potter says the day worker center would provide some structure for day workers. "Right now these folks are on the street, they have no protection from the elements, or from folks who may use their services and not pay for it,"=A0=A0Mayor Potter told KATU News. Jim Ludwick of Oregonians for Immigration Reform, firmly opposes the creation of the day worker center, saying "that [the center] flies in the face of public sentiment and flies in the face of the rule of law." Ludwick said he believes it is unfair for the city of Portland to make it easier for illegal immigrants to compete with American workers. "Not only are they subsidizing the building itself," Ludwick says, "they're subsidizing the environment where lawlessness is being rewarded." Seattle's day labor center costs $350,000 a year to run. A quarter of the funding comes from the city, county and state. The rest of the center's funding comes from fundraisers and private grants including money from the richest charity in the world, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Americorp workers who teach people English at the facility are paid for by the federal government. The success of the center in Seattle has led to plans to move to a new $4 million location across town and will include expanded services for immigrants, Including a day labor center. However, the move is meeting opposition. People in the new neighborhood where the center would be located were given a tour to address their concerns about loitering. Dale Kaku, a neighborhood leader, said "the city has decided it's going to stick this thing in a residential neighborhood, and we're opposed to that." There are a handful of workers who don't participate in the Seattle program. Instead, they stand on the sidewalk in the very same way laborers have been coming to the same spot in Portland for many years. That may change if Mayor Potter is successful in his plan. "I think it's a more humane way to do it, rather than ignore the problem," Potter told KATU News. "It's there and I think we need to deal with it." A recent poll conducted by KATU News indicated there was considerable opposition (66%) to the day labor center idea. ~ --WebTV-Mail-3016-2644 Content-Description: signature Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit <html><img src="http://media.katu.com/images/day_labor_poll.jpg" width=100%></html> --WebTV-Mail-3016-2644--
Re: Portland's Day Labor Center Plan
Author: Lobby Dosser
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 01:08
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 01:08
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pjberg@webtv.net (Paul Berg) wrote: > Currently, workers are paid a minimum $12 an hour for gardening��and > up to $20 an hour for specialized work like setting tile. And supposedly you can't get legal workers for those wages? $24K a year for gardening?
Re: Portland's Day Labor Center Plan
Author: Lobby Dosser
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 01:10
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 01:10
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pjberg@webtv.net (Paul Berg) wrote: > Americorp workers who teach people English at the facility are paid for > by the federal government. Just Marvelous!
Re: Portland's Day Labor Center Plan
Author: Lobby Dosser
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 01:12
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 01:12
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pjberg@webtv.net (Paul Berg) wrote: > "I think it's a more humane way to do it, rather than ignore the > problem," Potter told KATU News. > > "It's there and I think we need to deal with it." Rent busses for the drive to the nearest Federales. > > A recent poll conducted by KATU News indicated there was considerable > opposition (66%) to the day labor center idea. Now there's a surprise!
Re: Portland's Day Labor Center Plan
Author: johnny
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 01:18
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 01:18
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Lobby Dosser wrote: > pjberg@webtv.net (Paul Berg) wrote: > >> Currently, workers are paid a minimum $12 an hour for gardening��and >> up to $20 an hour for specialized work like setting tile. > > And supposedly you can't get legal workers for those wages? $24K a year for > gardening? And the money is tax free. -- Tom Tancredo for President in 2008 For a Secure America http://www.teamtancredo.org/ http://tancredo.house.gov/
Re: Portland's Day Labor Center Plan
Author: sinistersteve
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 02:18
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 02:18
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"Lobby Dosser" <lobby.dosser.mapson@verizon.net> wrote in message news:GiLzi.42$j23.15@trndny06... > pjberg@webtv.net (Paul Berg) wrote: > >> Currently, workers are paid a minimum $12 an hour for gardening��and >> up to $20 an hour for specialized work like setting tile. > > And supposedly you can't get legal workers for those wages? $24K a year > for > gardening? Not only that, but who guarantees that these wages will be paid?
Re: Portland's Day Labor Center Plan
Author: Lobby Dosser
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 03:46
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 03:46
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"sinistersteve" <sinistersteve@goto.hell> wrote: > > "Lobby Dosser" <lobby.dosser.mapson@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:GiLzi.42$j23.15@trndny06... >> pjberg@webtv.net (Paul Berg) wrote: >> >>> Currently, workers are paid a minimum $12 an hour for gardening��and >>> up to $20 an hour for specialized work like setting tile. >> >> And supposedly you can't get legal workers for those wages? $24K a >> year for >> gardening? > > > Not only that, but who guarantees that these wages will be paid? > > > $24K a year for gardening is pretty damn good.
Re: Portland's Day Labor Center Plan
Author: lein
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 04:03
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 04:03
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On Aug 24, 6:08 pm, Lobby Dosser <lobby.dosser.map...@verizon.net> wrote: > pjb...@webtv.net (Paul Berg) wrote: > > Currently, workers are paid a minimum $12 an hour for gardeningÿÿand > > up to $20 an hour for specialized work like setting tile. > > And supposedly you can't get legal workers for those wages? $24K a year for > gardening? I don't understand the problem being solved, Portland already has a substantial number of temporary worker agencies.
Re: Portland's Day Labor Center Plan
Author: sinistersteve
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 05:20
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 05:20
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"lein" <boomer_the_cat@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:1188014630.735880.40880@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com... >I don't understand the problem being solved, Portland already has a >substantial number of temporary worker agencies. Yeah, but they want employess who don't steal someones SS#.
Re: Portland's Day Labor Center Plan
Author: Curt
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:07
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:07
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"Lobby Dosser" <lobby.dosser.mapson@verizon.net> wrote in message news:9mLzi.44$j23.4@trndny06... > pjberg@webtv.net (Paul Berg) wrote: > > > "I think it's a more humane way to do it, rather than ignore the > > problem," Potter told KATU News. > > > > "It's there and I think we need to deal with it." > > Rent busses for the drive to the nearest Federales. > > > > > A recent poll conducted by KATU News indicated there was considerable > > opposition (66%) to the day labor center idea. > > Now there's a surprise! I'm all for it -- gives La Migra a place to go check IDs. Curt
Re: Portland's Day Labor Center Plan
Author: Scratch
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 05:10
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 05:10
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"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in news:13d0uefruma673f@corp.supernews.com: > > "Lobby Dosser" <lobby.dosser.mapson@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:9mLzi.44$j23.4@trndny06... >> pjberg@webtv.net (Paul Berg) wrote: >> >> > "I think it's a more humane way to do it, rather than ignore the >> > problem," Potter told KATU News. >> > >> > "It's there and I think we need to deal with it." >> >> Rent busses for the drive to the nearest Federales. >> >> > >> > A recent poll conducted by KATU News indicated there was >> > considerable opposition (66%) to the day labor center idea. >> >> Now there's a surprise! > > I'm all for it -- gives La Migra a place to go check IDs. > > Curt > > > Admit it. Your for anything that would divide America.
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