Is it a 4405 or 4319?

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4 total messages Started by Zakureth Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:35

#14

Author: Zakureth
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:35

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  Hello.  A couple of months I was given this old Tek boxen, which seems to
pass all of it's diagnostics just fine.  I've never had the money to buy drives
so I've been unable to make use of it.  I've been considering it, but there has
been some question over what kind of machine it is.
  The case says it's a 4405, but the Utek distribution tapes I got with it say
they're for a 4319 machine.  I'm not sure who is lying, the case or the tapes.
I believe the cases for both are besically the same.  Is there anything in the
machinery which I can check for to tell what kind of machien it is?
  Thanks.
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Re: Is it a 4405 or 4319?

#15

Author: Michael T. Horne
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:30

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In a recent article by mblake@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (Zakureth):
>
>  The case says it's a 4405, but the Utek distribution tapes I got with it say
>they're for a 4319 machine.  I'm not sure who is lying, the case or the tapes.
>...

You probably have a "4315", which runs the UTek OS (rather than (p)Uniflex
which came with the 4405 in its heyday).  Consider yourself lucky.  Odds
are good that the binaries for the 4315 are on the 4319 tape, though
I wouldn't bet my life on it.

There were a few dozen 4405 -> 4315 upgrades back in 1988 or so (I had one).
It's a fairly inexpensive X machine that has approximately the performance
of a Sun 3 (in fact, it can run a great many Sun 3 binaries).

Lotsa luck!

Mike
mikeh@qualis.com

Re: Is it a 4405 or 4319?

#16

Author: Jeff Beadles
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 06:26

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>In a recent article by mblake@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (Zakureth):
>
>  The case says it's a 4405, but the Utek distribution tapes I got with it say
>they're for a 4319 machine.  I'm not sure who is lying, the case or the tapes.

Is the monitor 19" or 15"?  If it's 15", then it's gotta be a 4405 or 4315.
Off hand, I can't remember how to tell'em apart, but a good first-shot is to
"double click" the reset button on the back, to get into diagnostics.

mikeh@qualis.com (Michael T. Horne) writes:
>You probably have a "4315", which runs the UTek OS (rather than (p)Uniflex
>which came with the 4405 in its heyday).  Consider yourself lucky.  Odds
>are good that the binaries for the 4315 are on the 4319 tape, though
>I wouldn't bet my life on it.

The 4319 tape doesn't have 4315 binaries I believe...  The 4316/7 was on one set
of tapes, the 4319 on another, and the 4315 on yet another.  The 4315 is VERY
different from the 4316/7.  It has the weird panning screen, and 4kb memory
pages.  (instead of 8k, which all other 43xx's have)

From a rusty memory, here's the 43xx product line:

4301  - 68020/25mhz based display-less workstation.
4315  - 68020/16mhz based integrated mono display (15") workstation
4315+ - 68020/16mhz based integrated mono display (15") workstation
        (Upgraded from 4405, basically the same as a 4315.)
4316  - 68020/16mhz based integrated greyscale display (19") workstation
4317  - 68020/16mhz based integrated color display (19") workstation
4319  - 68020/25mhz based integrated color display (15") workstation
        (The 4319's compute engine is more like a 4301)
432x  - 68020/25mhz based workstation with 2D graphics (4301 + 2D graphics)
433x  - 68020/25mhz based workstation with 3D graphics (4301 + 3D graphics)

>There were a few dozen 4405 -> 4315 upgrades back in 1988 or so (I had one).
>It's a fairly inexpensive X machine that has approximately the performance
>of a Sun 3 (in fact, it can run a great many Sun 3 binaries).

There were quite a few more than this...  I personally upgraded 10 or so
myself.  Tek labs in Bld50 had a lot of them that were upgraded as well.

UTek 4.x has Sun3 emulation, but only for SunOS version 3.x.  It won't run
SunOS 4.x binaries, sigh.  The 4301 series has a 25mhz clock, -vs-
the Sun 3/60's 20mhz clock.

Later,
	-Jeff
-- 
Jeff Beadles		jeff@onion.rain.com

Re: Is it a 4405 or 4319?

#17

Author: Kaveh R. Ghazi
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:27

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 > UTek 4.x has Sun3 emulation, but only for SunOS version 3.x.  It won't run
 > SunOS 4.x binaries, sigh.  The 4301 series has a 25mhz clock, -vs-
 > the Sun 3/60's 20mhz clock.
 > Later,
 > 	-Jeff

	I have been able to run sun3 SunOS 4.1.1 binaries by linking them
with -Bstatic.  It is the SunOS 4.x sharable libraries that cause UTek to
toss its cookies.  Statically linked 4.x programs work fine.
		--Kaveh
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Kaveh R. Ghazi			CAIP Center, Rutgers University.
ghazi@caip.rutgers.edu		rutgers!caip.rutgers.edu!ghazi

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