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Re: Bush's Erratic Behavior Worries White House Aides

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From: Kevin Childers
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:29
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Since there seems to be open season, how about this?  Please note I do =
not agree with everything sited, and have added comments in italics, =
just trying to be a little balanced.

KC

Food for thought
=20
"Worst president in history?"
=20
    There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq during the month of =
January.....  In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the =
month of January.  That's just one American city folks, about as deadly =
as the entire war torn country of Iraq. =20

        I believe at last count St. Louis was listed as having a higher =
crime rate than Detroit, so I assume that means we probably have more =
murders?

    The following appeared in the Durham, NC local paper as a letter to =
the editor.  Perhaps this will help things in perspective:

    Liberals claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war.

    They complain about his prosecution of it. One liberal recently =
claimed Bush was the worst president in U.S. history.=20

     Let's clear up one point:  We didn't start the war on terror. Try =
to remember, it was started by terrorists BEFORE 9/11.=20

    Let's look at the  "worst" president and mismanagement claims.

    FDR...  led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan =
did.  From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per =
year.

        Led, try led the country during a time when most Americans =
didn't want to get involved in another European war.  Japans attack on =
the US was a catalyst that changed everything.

Truman...  finished that war and started one in Korea, North Korea never =
attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of =
18,333 per year.

        Another dubious claim.  The true issue was about the spread of =
communism in Asia and the US commitment to it's allies in the region.

John F. Kennedy...  started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never =
attacked us.

        1962, was long after the war in Viet Nam started, it is a key =
mile stone in US participation, but again it harkens back to the same =
reasoning for our involvement in Korea with the added impetuous that =
Communism could spread to neighboring countries far more easily than it =
could from North Korea.

Johnson...  turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives =
were lost, an average of 5,800 per year.

        The US administration, media, military, et all have to take the =
hit on this.

    Clinton...  went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent, =
Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a  =
platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on =
multiple occasions.

        Arguable, but what the French have to do with this is a matter =
of small significance.  As for the UN, swift action by then can be =
clocked on a geologic scale. =20

    In the two years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has =
liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida,  put =
nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot, =
and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.=20

        Liberate is a strong word and a stretch, since neither country =
was occupied by an outside force.  Crush the Taliban, yes, but al-Qaida? =
 Hard to say with any international based irregular warfare operation.  =
Libya, started a long time ago.  Iran has it's own internal issues to =
include an ongoing liberalization movement counter to the original =
tenants of the Islamic revolution that pushed the Shaw from power.  =
North Korea, who can say, there are so many un quantifiable variables =
between there internal issues as well as international shifts in power.  =
I think it is a gross mistake to count on any thing involving them.

     Worst president in history?  Come on!  WHO is complaining about how =
long the war is taking?

    It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the =
Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51 day operation.

    We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less =
time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing =
records.

    It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to =
destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to  call =
the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.

    It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in =
Florida!!!!

    Our military is GREAT! PASS IT ON.

    Thank God for the blessings we are not at war on our USA land!  It =
could be here! 
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Since there seems to be open season, =
how about=20
this?&nbsp; Please note I do not agree with everything sited, and have =
added=20
comments in italics, just trying to be a little balanced.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>KC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Food for thought<BR>&nbsp;<BR>"Worst =
president in=20
history?"<BR>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; There were 39 combat =
related=20
killings in Iraq during the month of January.....&nbsp; In the fair city =
of=20
Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January.&nbsp; That's just =
one=20
American city folks, about as deadly as the entire war torn country of=20
Iraq.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
<EM>I believe=20
at last count St. Louis was listed as having a higher crime rate than =
Detroit,=20
so I assume that means we probably have more murders?</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The following =
appeared in the=20
Durham, NC local paper as a letter to the editor.&nbsp; Perhaps this =
will help=20
things in perspective:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Liberals claim =
President Bush=20
shouldn't have started this war.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; They complain about =
his=20
prosecution of it. One liberal recently claimed Bush was the worst =
president in=20
U.S. history. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Let's clear up =
one=20
point:&nbsp; We didn't start the war on terror. Try to remember, it was =
started=20
by terrorists BEFORE 9/11. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Let's look at =
the&nbsp; "worst"=20
president and mismanagement claims.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; FDR...&nbsp; led us =
into World=20
War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan did.&nbsp; From 1941-1945, =
450,000=20
lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Led, try=20
led the country during a time when most Americans didn't want to get =
involved in=20
another European war.&nbsp; Japans attack on the US was a catalyst that =
changed=20
everything.</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Truman...&nbsp; finished that war and =
started one=20
in Korea, North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives =
were lost,=20
an average of 18,333 per year.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Another=20
dubious claim.&nbsp; The true issue was about the spread of communism in =
Asia=20
and the US commitment to it's allies in the region.</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John F. Kennedy...&nbsp; started the =
Vietnam=20
conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1962, was=20
long after the war in Viet Nam started, it is a key mile stone in US=20
participation, but again it harkens back to the same reasoning for our=20
involvement in Korea with the added impetuous that Communism could =
spread to=20
neighboring countries far more easily than it could from North=20
Korea.</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Johnson...&nbsp; turned Vietnam into a =
quagmire.=20
From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an average of 5,800 per=20
year.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The US=20
administration, media, military, et all have to take the hit on=20
this.</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Clinton...&nbsp; =
went to war in=20
Bosnia without UN or French consent, Bosnia never attacked us. He was =
offered=20
Osama bin Laden's head on a&nbsp; platter three times by Sudan and did =
nothing.=20
Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Arguable,=20
but what the French have to do with this is a matter of small=20
significance.&nbsp; As for the UN, swift action by then can be clocked =
on a=20
geologic scale.&nbsp; </EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In the two years =
since=20
terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, =
crushed the=20
Taliban, crippled al-Qaida,&nbsp; put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran =
and=20
North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who =
slaughtered=20
300,000 of his own people. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Liberate=20
is a strong word and a stretch, since neither country was occupied by an =
outside=20
force.&nbsp; Crush the Taliban, yes, but al-Qaida?&nbsp; Hard to say =
with any=20
international based irregular warfare operation.&nbsp; Libya, started a =
long=20
time ago.&nbsp; Iran has it's own internal issues to include an ongoing=20
liberalization movement counter to the original tenants of the Islamic=20
revolution that pushed the Shaw from power.&nbsp; North Korea, who can =
say,=20
there are so many un quantifiable variables between there internal =
issues as=20
well as international shifts in power.&nbsp; I think it is a gross =
mistake to=20
count on any thing involving them.</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Worst =
president in=20
history?&nbsp; Come on!&nbsp; WHO is complaining about how long the war =
is=20
taking?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It took less time to =
take Iraq=20
than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a =
51 day=20
operation.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; We've been looking =
for evidence=20
of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton =
to find=20
the Rose Law Firm billing records.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It took less time =
for the 3rd=20
Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard =
than it=20
took Ted Kennedy to&nbsp; call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at=20
Chappaquiddick.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It took less time to =
take Iraq=20
than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Our military is =
GREAT! PASS=20
IT ON.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thank God for the =
blessings we=20
are not at war on our USA land!&nbsp; It could be=20
here!&nbsp;</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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