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"Earl J. DePass Jr." <earlagwe@quicklink.com> wrote:

>Second Avenue Kosher Deli is on the Web, and they do mail order!

>Go to http://www.quicklink.com/~nycdeli/

>There site is still under constuction but it's great, especially if your
>browser is Java equipped. 
>Does anyone know of any other real KOSHER delis on the web?

Two observations
1) From the most Orthodox standpoint, 2nd Ave. Deli is not Kosher
because they are open on Shabbat.  Many frum Jews I know refuse to eat
there
2) There is no contract for the workers there, and the Deli has had
labor problems for about two years.  Someone was recently killed who
worked there, and when I last read on the topic, the labor issue had
not been ruled out as a reason.

Shame--their corned beef is great.  I'm not Orthodox, so I'd eat
there, but I won't eat in a place that doesn't respect workers'
rights.

Andrew Mathis
Grandson of union workers

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On Sat, 05 Oct 1996 19:46:07 GMT, Andrew Mathis <fresh@panix.com> wrote:
>Two observations
>1) From the most Orthodox standpoint, 2nd Ave. Deli is not Kosher
>because they are open on Shabbat.  Many frum Jews I know refuse to eat
>there

Ah....kosher style, then?
What other kosher and kosher style restaurants are there?  
I periodically need a good dose of Jewish foods that I never
learned to make.  I'd prefer kosher style recommendations,
since I prefer meat in my meal and milk in my coffee.

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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>Shame--their corned beef is great.  I'm not Orthodox, so I'd eat
>there, but I won't eat in a place that doesn't respect workers'
>rights.
>
>Andrew Mathis
>Grandson of union workers

While I admire your choice to take a stand, I also must add that your
stand is about as up-to-date as are your deceased relatives.

Unions had a purpose in the recent (50 years?) past.  They do nothing
now but COST American workers jobs IMNSHO.

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In article <5366ac$qtj@news1.panix.com>, fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>Someone was recently killed who worked there...

That someone was the owner. And, although I would join a union given the
opportunity, not all of them always do good things. Many conditions unions
insist on have really gotten out of hand, eg: mandatory overtime by NY
Teamster drivers who finish their liquor deliveries early.

Yes, I am grateful for Joe Hill and the 40 hour work week. But unions
depend on good, honest leadership, and too often this is missing.

jamie wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 05 Oct 1996 19:46:07 GMT, Andrew Mathis <fresh@panix.com> wrote:
> >Two observations
> >1) From the most Orthodox standpoint, 2nd Ave. Deli is not Kosher
> >because they are open on Shabbat.  Many frum Jews I know refuse to eat
> >there
> 
> Ah....kosher style, then?

Congregant: "What does "kosher style" mean?
Rabbi: "Tref".

David

Earl J. DePass Jr. wrote:
> 
> Second Avenue Kosher Deli is on the Web, and they do mail order!
> 
> 

What a treat to see this on the Web, I grew up in a building literally across the street 
from the 2nd Ave. Deli, I ate many wonderful corned beef, chopped liver , and pastrami 
sandwiches there.

Lloyd
(who is languishing in Lansing, longing for good Deli. )

Sorry folks, Zingermans doesn't get it!!

On Sat, 05 Oct 1996 23:15:11 -0700, David Sternlight <david@sternlight.com> wrote:
>jamie wrote:
>> On Sat, 05 Oct 1996 19:46:07 GMT, Andrew Mathis <fresh@panix.com> wrote:
>> >Two observations
>> >1) From the most Orthodox standpoint, 2nd Ave. Deli is not Kosher
>> >because they are open on Shabbat.  Many frum Jews I know refuse to eat
>> >there
>> 
>> Ah....kosher style, then?
>
>Congregant: "What does "kosher style" mean?
>Rabbi: "Tref".

Tref is fine by me....I am interested in foods like my grandma made,
that I never learned to make.

One thing I don't want is a goyische stale bagel from a goyische bagel
shop, 'cause they don't know it isn't *supposed* to be hard as a rock,
with any old pale tasteless smoked salmon that the management decides
they can call lox.  Looking for good blintzes, latkes (well, I can cook
those, but I'm lazy), knishes, kishkes, kugel....

-- 
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Paul@LogonChi.com (Paul Montgomery) wrote:

>fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>>Shame--their corned beef is great.  I'm not Orthodox, so I'd eat
>>there, but I won't eat in a place that doesn't respect workers'
>>rights.
>>
>>Andrew Mathis
>>Grandson of union workers

>While I admire your choice to take a stand, I also must add that your
>stand is about as up-to-date as are your deceased relatives.

Why don't you inform my grandmother that she's dead; I'll give you her
phone number.  She's only 71.

Andrew

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Can someone please explain to me what this little discussion has to do with
wine?

Arthur P. Johnson (arthurj@voicenet.com) wrote:
: 
: Can someone please explain to me what this little discussion has to do with
: wine?
: 

It's got nothing to do with food in Philadelphia either. Followups
adjusted accordingly. Thanks.

hrg
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Andrew, I chequed out your , pretty good article. IT says you are
a literary critic. What type of books do you critique? History? 
Classic literature?  Have you read Daniel Goldhagens book , "
Hitlers willige Vollstrecker"?


MeYer

In article <537i5b$75d@news1.panix.com>, fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) says:
>
>Paul@LogonChi.com (Paul Montgomery) wrote:
>
>>fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:
>
>>>Shame--their corned beef is great.  I'm not Orthodox, so I'd eat
>>>there, but I won't eat in a place that doesn't respect workers'
>>>rights.
>>>
>>>Andrew Mathis
>>>Grandson of union workers
>
>>While I admire your choice to take a stand, I also must add that your
>>stand is about as up-to-date as are your deceased relatives.
>
>Why don't you inform my grandmother that she's dead; I'll give you her
>phone number.  She's only 71.
>
>Andrew
>
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>
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>

You can get very fine Kasha Varnishkes at a deli on the west side of
Essex Street, about 2 blocks south of Delancey. I don't know their name
because the sign is in Hebrew which I don't read.

Jeremy

jamie wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 05 Oct 1996 23:15:11 -0700, David Sternlight <david@sternlight.com> wrote:
> >jamie wrote:
> >> On Sat, 05 Oct 1996 19:46:07 GMT, Andrew Mathis <fresh@panix.com> wrote:
> >> >Two observations
> >> >1) From the most Orthodox standpoint, 2nd Ave. Deli is not Kosher
> >> >because they are open on Shabbat.  Many frum Jews I know refuse to eat
> >> >there
> >>
> >> Ah....kosher style, then?
> >
> >Congregant: "What does "kosher style" mean?
> >Rabbi: "Tref".
> 
> Tref is fine by me....I am interested in foods like my grandma made,
> that I never learned to make.
> 
> One thing I don't want is a goyische stale bagel from a goyische bagel
> shop, 'cause they don't know it isn't *supposed* to be hard as a rock,
> with any old pale tasteless smoked salmon that the management decides
> they can call lox.  Looking for good blintzes, latkes (well, I can cook
> those, but I'm lazy), knishes, kishkes, kugel....
> 
> --
>   jamie  (email via mike@bga.com)
> 
>                 "There's a seeker born every minute."

What about Manny's, just North of Roosevelt Street in Chicago?  Doe s it qualify as "Kosher Style"
Are the labor practices an issue? I like the pastrami.

What about Manny's, just North of Roosevelt Street in Chicago?  Doe s it qualify as "Kosher Style"
Are the labor practices an issue? I like the pastrami.