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17 total messages Started by efgh Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:02
Chinatowns in nyc, DC, and Phila.
#74
Author: efgh
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:02
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I'm familiar with C-town in NYC and Phila., but not DC.   I know that C-town 
in NYC is much, much....... larger than those in DC or Phila.      How does 
C-town in Phila. vs. DC compare, in terms of size, diversity, number of 
restaurants.     (I know Phila. has a few Viet., Thai, and even a Burmese 
place in C-town; not sure about DC though).     
Re: Chinatowns in nyc, DC, and Phila.
#75
Author: Me
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:06
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"efgh" <efgh@xnoemail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm familiar with C-town in NYC and Phila., but not DC.   I know that
C-town
> in NYC is much, much....... larger than those in DC or Phila.      How
does
> C-town in Phila. vs. DC compare, in terms of size, diversity, number of
> restaurants.     (I know Phila. has a few Viet., Thai, and even a Burmese
> place in C-town; not sure about DC though).

I wasn't aware the DC had a Chinatown. Where exactly is it located?
Re: Chinatowns in nyc, DC, and Phila.
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Author: Michael Syn
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:15
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> I wasn't aware the DC had a Chinatown.
> Where exactly is it located?

Right around the MCI Center.  The big, colorful entrance is around 7th & H
NW.

The restaurants there have gone done hill in recent years, IMO.  I'm open to
any recommendations that are still at the top of their game and worth a
visit.

Michael
Re: Chinatowns in nyc, DC, and Phila.
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Author: gbravy
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 16:10
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"Michael Syn" <synergi@NOSPAMHERE.cymetrix.com> wrote in message news:<r50c8.9173$rs6.5536711@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>...
> > I wasn't aware the DC had a Chinatown.
> > Where exactly is it located?
> 
> Right around the MCI Center.  The big, colorful entrance is around 7th & H
> NW.
> 
> The restaurants there have gone done hill in recent years, IMO.  I'm open to
> any recommendations that are still at the top of their game and worth a
> visit.
> 
> Michael

The Philly Chinatown is very nice; prices are very reasonable and the
staffs usually quite accomodating.  I especially like the West Lake
Deli[?-may not be right name] and a noodle shop on the same cross
street as the Convention Center and another restaurant [sorry don't
know name] that serves tea in glasses. There are also a couple of
bakeries.  DC's Chinatown is a little wan these days, but I love the
soups (esp. the roast pork noodle soup and the veg. noodle soup) at
the newly reopened Eat First; also their snow pea leaves. Been to
Chinatown Express for soup, also very good but staff is a little stand
offish sometimes.  DC's Chinatown is having a rough time these days
with the run up of real estate prices because of the convention center
and I wouldn't be surprised if more of the restaurants went out of
business since the Convention Center, after a bit of slow start, is
pretty 'hot' these days.  (Unfortunately, I have also noticed some
fairly 'unsavory' characters around some of the corners in Chinatown
of late...)

Also like Hope Key in Arlington (Clarendon)-seems to be very
'authentic'.
Re: Chinatowns in nyc, DC, and Phila.
#78
Author: Scott Dorsey
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:15
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In article <r50c8.9173$rs6.5536711@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>,
Michael Syn <synergi@NOSPAMHERE.cymetrix.com> wrote:
>
>> I wasn't aware the DC had a Chinatown.
>> Where exactly is it located?
>
>Right around the MCI Center.  The big, colorful entrance is around 7th & H
>NW.
>
>The restaurants there have gone done hill in recent years, IMO.  I'm open to
>any recommendations that are still at the top of their game and worth a
>visit.

The review page is up at http://www.panix.com/~kludge/chinese.html still.
DC's Chinatown has about halved in size in the past ten years and the
construction of the MCI center has not helped at all.  There is still good
food to be had there if you ask around, but most of the Chinese community
has moved out into the suburbs.  Hell, almost everyone in DC has moved out
into the suburbs....
--scott
-- 
"C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Re: Chinatowns in nyc, DC, and Phila.
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Author: Karen Y Byrd
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:06
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:02:23 GMT, efgh <efgh@xnoemail.com> wrote:
>I'm familiar with C-town in NYC and Phila., but not DC.   I know that C-town 
>in NYC is much, much....... larger than those in DC or Phila.      How does 
>C-town in Phila. vs. DC compare, in terms of size, diversity, number of 
>restaurants.     (I know Phila. has a few Viet., Thai, and even a Burmese 
>place in C-town; not sure about DC though).     

As others have said there is no comparison between Phila.'s Chinatown
and DC's. Philly's is thriving while DC's has been pretty dismal for
years. 

-- 

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Info. Services				Fax:   215/573-7645
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Phila, PA, 19104
Re: Chinatowns in nyc, DC, and Phila.
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Author: Scott Dorsey
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:17
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In article <slrn3vsa7a389.8rdr.kybyrd@pobox.upenn.edu>,
Karen Y Byrd <kybyrd@mail.med.upenn.edu> wrote:
>On Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:02:23 GMT, efgh <efgh@xnoemail.com> wrote:
>>I'm familiar with C-town in NYC and Phila., but not DC.   I know that C-town 
>>in NYC is much, much....... larger than those in DC or Phila.      How does 
>>C-town in Phila. vs. DC compare, in terms of size, diversity, number of 
>>restaurants.     (I know Phila. has a few Viet., Thai, and even a Burmese 
>>place in C-town; not sure about DC though).     
>
>As others have said there is no comparison between Phila.'s Chinatown
>and DC's. Philly's is thriving while DC's has been pretty dismal for
>years. 

Yes, but this goes pretty much for the whole downtown area, doesn't it?
--scott


-- 
"C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Re: Chinatowns in nyc, DC, and Phila.
#66
Author: Karen Y Byrd
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:20
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On 21 Feb 2002 10:17:08 -0500, Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
>In article <slrn3vsa7a389.8rdr.kybyrd@pobox.upenn.edu>,
>Karen Y Byrd <kybyrd@mail.med.upenn.edu> wrote:
>>On Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:02:23 GMT, efgh <efgh@xnoemail.com> wrote:
>>>I'm familiar with C-town in NYC and Phila., but not DC.   I know that C-town 
>>>in NYC is much, much....... larger than those in DC or Phila.      How does 
>>>C-town in Phila. vs. DC compare, in terms of size, diversity, number of 
>>>restaurants.     (I know Phila. has a few Viet., Thai, and even a Burmese 
>>>place in C-town; not sure about DC though).     
>>
>>As others have said there is no comparison between Phila.'s Chinatown
>>and DC's. Philly's is thriving while DC's has been pretty dismal for
>>years. 
>
>Yes, but this goes pretty much for the whole downtown area, doesn't it?

Yes, unfortunately. Speaking of the DC 'burbs, I'm pretty sure there's
a sizable Vietanmese community in Falls Church, VA.

KByrd
Re: Chinatowns in nyc, DC, and Phila.
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Author: Adam Finkelstein
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 16:14
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In article <slrn3vsa7a418.d908.kybyrd@pobox.upenn.edu>,
Karen Y Byrd <kybyrd@mail.med.upenn.edu> wrote:

>Yes, unfortunately. Speaking of the DC 'burbs, I'm pretty sure there's
>a sizable Vietanmese community in Falls Church, VA.

Really. And what does this have to do with Chinese food?
DC has a few good Chinese places in China Town. Some excellent ones in the
Suburbs. Nothing like New York though. I've not been to Philly's China Town.

However, for Vietnamese food, DC and the surrounding area blows the doors off
New York. Vietnamese food and Chinese (Cantonese) food are extremely
different. If you cannot discern between the two, you'll have a pleasant
experience learning! 

Adam
-- 
Adam Finkelstein
adamf@panix.com
Re: Chinatowns in nyc, DC, and Phila.
#68
Author: Karen Y Byrd
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 17:15
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On 21 Feb 2002 11:14:46 -0500, Adam Finkelstein <adamf@panix1.panix.com.null>
 wrote:
>In article <slrn3vsa7a418.d908.kybyrd@pobox.upenn.edu>,
>Karen Y Byrd <kybyrd@mail.med.upenn.edu> wrote:
>
>>Yes, unfortunately. Speaking of the DC 'burbs, I'm pretty sure there's
>>a sizable Vietanmese community in Falls Church, VA.


>Really. And what does this have to do with Chinese food?

Nothing. Just an example of how part of the Asian community in DC has
abandoned DC proper.

>DC has a few good Chinese places in China Town. Some excellent ones in the
>Suburbs. Nothing like New York though. I've not been to Philly's China Town.

Phila.'s Chinatown is located, if you don't know, in Center City between
Arch and Vine Sts and 9th and 11th Sts. It's next door to the PA Convention
Center. (There's also a section just north of it of this core
area which is residential.) It's a full community in that people live there 
with banks and 
churchs, shops, bakeries... Plus the restaurants. I don't know how many
restaurants there are but there are several in each block. 

There are other Asian restaurants in Phila.'s Chinatown too namely 
Vietnamese and Thai.

>However, for Vietnamese food, DC and the surrounding area blows the doors off
>New York. Vietnamese food and Chinese (Cantonese) food are extremely
>different. If you cannot discern between the two, you'll have a pleasant
>experience learning! 

I know the difference, thank you.

In Phila. there's a large Vietnamese community in South Phila.(Bella Vista)
complete with their own shops and restaurants. 

There are also a lot of Koreans here and fair number of Cambodians too.

KByrd
Re: Chinatowns in nyc, DC, and Phila.
#69
Author: James Andrews
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 17:27
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In phl.food Karen Y Byrd <kybyrd@mail.med.upenn.edu> wrote:

: In Phila. there's a large Vietnamese community in South Phila.(Bella Vista)
: complete with their own shops and restaurants. 


A moment of silence for nam phuong............ OK

Jas.

-- 
James Andrews
Philadelphia, PA
Re: Chinatowns in nyc, DC, and Phila.
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Author: Karen Y Byrd
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 18:24
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On 21 Feb 2002 17:27:04 GMT, James Andrews <jandrews@mail1.sas.upenn.edu> wrote:
>In phl.food Karen Y Byrd <kybyrd@mail.med.upenn.edu> wrote:
>
>: In Phila. there's a large Vietnamese community in South Phila.(Bella Vista)
>: complete with their own shops and restaurants. 
>
>
>A moment of silence for nam phuong............ OK

I'm SO old I remember when the Saigon opened back in the 70s. It was
an instant success. People were just ready for something a wee bit
different from wjat they were used from Chinatown.

KByrd
Re: Chinatowns in nyc, DC, and Phila.
#71
Author: Adam Finkelstein
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 21:11
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In article <slrn3vsa7aaph.2nq2.kybyrd@pobox.upenn.edu>,
Karen Y Byrd <kybyrd@mail.med.upenn.edu> wrote:
>
>>Really. And what does this have to do with Chinese food?
>
>Nothing. Just an example of how part of the Asian community in DC has
>abandoned DC proper.

Oh, thanks for your succinct elucidation and general erudition.
Adam

-- 
Adam Finkelstein
adamf@panix.com
Re: Chinatowns in nyc, DC, and Phila.
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Author: The Beet Man
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 11:46
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On 18 Feb 2002 08:10:55 -0800, in article
<cc3e42e0.0202180810.248d1c28@posting.google.com>, gbravy@yahoo.com
(gbravy) wrote:

> DC's Chinatown is having a rough time these days
>with the run up of real estate prices because of the convention center
>and I wouldn't be surprised if more of the restaurants went out of
>business since the Convention Center, after a bit of slow start, is
>pretty 'hot' these days.  (Unfortunately, I have also noticed some
>fairly 'unsavory' characters around some of the corners in Chinatown
>of late...)

Actually the area around Philadelphia's Chinatown has been getting
progessively more "unsavory" in recent times.  Phila's Chinatown has
Arch St. as it's southern border, and it's kind of surprising how bad
the area gets just between Market (1 or 2 blocks south) and Arch.

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Re: Chinatowns in nyc, DC, and Phila.
#73
Author: Me
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:14
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"The Beet Man" <i-eat-beets-and-you-eat-beets@juno.com> wrote in message
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>
> Actually the area around Philadelphia's Chinatown has been getting
> progessively more "unsavory" in recent times.  Phila's Chinatown has
> Arch St. as it's southern border, and it's kind of surprising how bad
> the area gets just between Market (1 or 2 blocks south) and Arch.

Really? I visit that area several times a month. I have never had a
problem. Been doing that for many years. The area seems fine to me.
Re: Chinatowns in nyc, DC, and Phila.
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Author: CW3X
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 21:48
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Actually, while DC's Chinatown is dying on the vine, I think that 
overall its downtown area is much more lively and varied than Philly's 
(which is pretty abysmal in some areas).

In article <a5331k$8gn$1@panix2.panix.com>, kludge@panix.com (Scott 
Dorsey) wrote:

> In article <slrn3vsa7a389.8rdr.kybyrd@pobox.upenn.edu>,
> Karen Y Byrd <kybyrd@mail.med.upenn.edu> wrote:

 <snip>

> >As others have said there is no comparison between Phila.'s Chinatown
> >and DC's. Philly's is thriving while DC's has been pretty dismal for
> >years. 
> 
> Yes, but this goes pretty much for the whole downtown area, doesn't it?
> --scott
Re: Chinatowns in nyc, DC, and Phila.
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Author: The Beet Man
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:46
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:14:38 GMT, in article
<yr7e8.65663$X64.23433209@news1.rdc2.pa.home.com>, "Me"
<srhi@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>"The Beet Man" <i-eat-beets-and-you-eat-beets@juno.com> wrote in message
>news:ugkh7ukpj7jsj2noev42rlqiqil7k1kg19@4ax.com...
>>
>> Actually the area around Philadelphia's Chinatown has been getting
>> progessively more "unsavory" in recent times.  Phila's Chinatown has
>> Arch St. as it's southern border, and it's kind of surprising how bad
>> the area gets just between Market (1 or 2 blocks south) and Arch.
>
>Really? I visit that area several times a month. I have never had a
>problem. Been doing that for many years. The area seems fine to me.

It's not nearly as bad as any of the neighborhoods north of Chinatown,
and no, I don't feel unsafe walking around there, even at night, but I
do notice more unsavory types than I did, say, 5 or 10 years ago.  

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