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Article #2Re: What America Owes its 'Illegals'
From: Valeria Palmer
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 18:12
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 18:12
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Art Clemons wrote: > Valeria Palmer wrote: > > >>You don't remember a couple of years ago where the NYTimes pet Negro >>reporter was deiscovered to be plaigiarising everything in sight? Andf >>the Post got caught in a similar scam by a black female reporter some >>years back ... In both cases the editors were warned and wanred about >>these reporters, but ignored the warnings out of political correctness. > > > Considering how the NYTimes had Judith Miller among others who often gets > her facts wrong, may I suggest you need to stop focusing on race. As for > the Washington Post, have you ever read a Broder Column or a George Will > Column? > > >>You're making an assumption, what reputable sources for >> >>>your claims can you produce? I produced some, now rebut them. >>>Incidentally, the IRS issues T.I.N's to illegals, they can use those to >>>pay taxes and do. If they rent, a portion of their rent goes to paying >>>for local taxes and they can't escape sales taxes either. You've made >>>assumptions based on your preconceived beliefs which apparently aren't >>>true or at least there is little data to support them. >>> >>> >>> >>>>Let's put it frankly - I own a home in GA and a professional level job >>>>and I pay taxes, but I might barely pay enough in property taxes & sales >>>>taxes & income taxes combined to cover the costs of educating one child. >>>>Educating one English-speaking child costs between $5900 and $7500 in >>>>taxes depending on the county. Add in the costs for bilingual >>>>"education" and your bracero with three kids isn't even coming close to >>>>paying the toll. >>> >>> >>> >>>Theoretically though even after you stop having school age children, you >>>pay for education with property taxes, and those without children in your >>>community also pay taxes. If you bother to check, bi-lingual education >>>has fallen out of favor and I don't believe it exists in Georgia at all. >> >>You'd be completely wrong. > > > No, I'm not incorrect and I pointedly note how you have yet to provide a > singe source rebutting my URLs and claims. Instead you just proclaim it > incorrect. How about some FACTS? > > >>I >> >>>believe ya'll have English immersion. The total figure incidentally >>>includes the costs attributable to things like buses, bi-lingual >>>education, school nurses and administrative costs. >> >>You're not correct here. > > > > Oh but I am, note the following quote from a description of the Georgia LEP > program, which the state legislature refuses to fund. > > > http://www.ceousa.org/READ/50state.html > "Georgia > Contact: Beth Arnow, Migrant/ESOL Programs Coordinator, Georgia Department > of Education, (404) 656-4495. > > Requirements: State law requires schools to provide LEP student programs, > designed to develop both the necessary English skills and American culture > concepts for participation in regular English classroom instruction.14 > > Funding: There are 15, 277 LEP students. There is no state funding." > > > > > May I suggest you get some facts and get back to me, until you do, > everything you've claimed so far has been rebutted by supposedly reputable > sources. Because the state is not funding a particular prgram does not mean that the schools are not providing it through local funding. You don't live here, do ya?
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