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Re: What America Owes its 'Illegals'

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From: Valeria Palmer
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 18:12
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Art Clemons wrote:

> Valeria Palmer wrote:
> 
> 
>>You don't remember a couple of years ago where the NYTimes pet Negro
>>reporter was deiscovered to be plaigiarising everything in sight?  Andf
>>the Post got caught in a similar scam by a black female reporter some
>>years back ...  In both cases the editors were warned and wanred about
>>these reporters, but ignored the warnings out of political correctness.
> 
> 
> Considering how the NYTimes had Judith Miller among others who often gets
> her facts wrong, may I suggest you need to stop focusing on race.  As for
> the Washington Post, have you ever read a Broder Column or a George Will
> Column?
>  
> 
>>You're making an assumption, what reputable sources for
>>
>>>your claims can you produce?  I produced some, now rebut them.
>>>Incidentally, the IRS issues T.I.N's to illegals, they can use those to
>>>pay taxes and do.  If they rent, a portion of their rent goes to paying
>>>for local taxes and they can't escape sales taxes either.  You've made
>>>assumptions based on your preconceived beliefs which apparently aren't
>>>true or at least there is little data to support them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Let's put it frankly - I own a home in GA and a professional level job
>>>>and I pay taxes, but I might barely pay enough in property taxes & sales
>>>>taxes & income taxes combined to cover the costs of educating one child.
>>>>Educating one English-speaking child costs between $5900 and $7500 in
>>>>taxes depending on the county.  Add in the costs for bilingual
>>>>"education" and your bracero with three kids isn't even coming close to
>>>>paying the toll.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Theoretically though even after you stop having school age children, you
>>>pay for education with property taxes, and those without children in your
>>>community also pay taxes.  If you bother to check, bi-lingual education
>>>has fallen out of favor and I don't believe it exists in Georgia at all.
>>
>>You'd be completely wrong.
> 
> 
> No, I'm not incorrect and I pointedly note how you have yet to provide a
> singe source rebutting my URLs and claims.  Instead you just proclaim it
> incorrect.  How about some FACTS?
>  
> 
>>I
>>
>>>believe ya'll have English immersion.  The total figure incidentally
>>>includes the costs attributable to things like buses, bi-lingual
>>>education, school nurses and administrative costs.
>>
>>You're not correct here.
> 
> 
> 
> Oh but I am, note the following quote from a description of the Georgia LEP
> program, which the state legislature refuses to fund.
> 
> 
> http://www.ceousa.org/READ/50state.html
> "Georgia
> Contact: Beth Arnow, Migrant/ESOL Programs Coordinator, Georgia Department
> of Education, (404) 656-4495.
> 
> Requirements: State law requires schools to provide LEP student programs,
> designed to develop both the necessary English skills and American culture
> concepts for participation in regular English classroom instruction.14
> 
> Funding: There are 15, 277 LEP students. There is no state funding."
> 
> 
> 
> 
> May I suggest you get some facts and get back to me, until you do,
> everything you've claimed so far has been rebutted by supposedly reputable
> sources.  


Because the state is not funding a particular prgram does not mean that 
the schools are not providing it through local funding. You don't live 
here, do ya?
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