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Re: What America Owes its 'Illegals'

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From: Art Clemons
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 14:11
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Valeria Palmer wrote:

> You don't remember a couple of years ago where the NYTimes pet Negro
> reporter was deiscovered to be plaigiarising everything in sight? �Andf
> the Post got caught in a similar scam by a black female reporter some
> years back ... �In both cases the editors were warned and wanred about
> these reporters, but ignored the warnings out of political correctness.

Considering how the NYTimes had Judith Miller among others who often gets
her facts wrong, may I suggest you need to stop focusing on race.  As for
the Washington Post, have you ever read a Broder Column or a George Will
Column?
 
> You're making an assumption, what reputable sources for
>> your claims can you produce? �I produced some, now rebut them.
>> Incidentally, the IRS issues T.I.N's to illegals, they can use those to
>> pay taxes and do. �If they rent, a portion of their rent goes to paying
>> for local taxes and they can't escape sales taxes either. �You've made
>> assumptions based on your preconceived beliefs which apparently aren't
>> true or at least there is little data to support them.
>> 
>> 
>>>Let's put it frankly - I own a home in GA and a professional level job
>>>and I pay taxes, but I might barely pay enough in property taxes & sales
>>>taxes & income taxes combined to cover the costs of educating one child.
>>>Educating one English-speaking child costs between $5900 and $7500 in
>>>taxes depending on the county. �Add in the costs for bilingual
>>>"education" and your bracero with three kids isn't even coming close to
>>>paying the toll.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Theoretically though even after you stop having school age children, you
>> pay for education with property taxes, and those without children in your
>> community also pay taxes. �If you bother to check, bi-lingual education
>> has fallen out of favor and I don't believe it exists in Georgia at all.
> 
> You'd be completely wrong.

No, I'm not incorrect and I pointedly note how you have yet to provide a
singe source rebutting my URLs and claims.  Instead you just proclaim it
incorrect.  How about some FACTS?
 
> I
>> believe ya'll have English immersion. �The total figure incidentally
>> includes the costs attributable to things like buses, bi-lingual
>> education, school nurses and administrative costs.
> 
> You're not correct here.


Oh but I am, note the following quote from a description of the Georgia LEP
program, which the state legislature refuses to fund.


http://www.ceousa.org/READ/50state.html
"Georgia
Contact: Beth Arnow, Migrant/ESOL Programs Coordinator, Georgia Department
of Education, (404) 656-4495.

Requirements: State law requires schools to provide LEP student programs,
designed to develop both the necessary English skills and American culture
concepts for participation in regular English classroom instruction.14

Funding: There are 15, 277 LEP students. There is no state funding."




May I suggest you get some facts and get back to me, until you do,
everything you've claimed so far has been rebutted by supposedly reputable
sources.  
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