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Article #23Re: What America Owes its 'Illegals'
From: Art Clemons
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 14:11
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 14:11
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Valeria Palmer wrote: > You don't remember a couple of years ago where the NYTimes pet Negro > reporter was deiscovered to be plaigiarising everything in sight? �Andf > the Post got caught in a similar scam by a black female reporter some > years back ... �In both cases the editors were warned and wanred about > these reporters, but ignored the warnings out of political correctness. Considering how the NYTimes had Judith Miller among others who often gets her facts wrong, may I suggest you need to stop focusing on race. As for the Washington Post, have you ever read a Broder Column or a George Will Column? > You're making an assumption, what reputable sources for >> your claims can you produce? �I produced some, now rebut them. >> Incidentally, the IRS issues T.I.N's to illegals, they can use those to >> pay taxes and do. �If they rent, a portion of their rent goes to paying >> for local taxes and they can't escape sales taxes either. �You've made >> assumptions based on your preconceived beliefs which apparently aren't >> true or at least there is little data to support them. >> >> >>>Let's put it frankly - I own a home in GA and a professional level job >>>and I pay taxes, but I might barely pay enough in property taxes & sales >>>taxes & income taxes combined to cover the costs of educating one child. >>>Educating one English-speaking child costs between $5900 and $7500 in >>>taxes depending on the county. �Add in the costs for bilingual >>>"education" and your bracero with three kids isn't even coming close to >>>paying the toll. >> >> >> >> Theoretically though even after you stop having school age children, you >> pay for education with property taxes, and those without children in your >> community also pay taxes. �If you bother to check, bi-lingual education >> has fallen out of favor and I don't believe it exists in Georgia at all. > > You'd be completely wrong. No, I'm not incorrect and I pointedly note how you have yet to provide a singe source rebutting my URLs and claims. Instead you just proclaim it incorrect. How about some FACTS? > I >> believe ya'll have English immersion. �The total figure incidentally >> includes the costs attributable to things like buses, bi-lingual >> education, school nurses and administrative costs. > > You're not correct here. Oh but I am, note the following quote from a description of the Georgia LEP program, which the state legislature refuses to fund. http://www.ceousa.org/READ/50state.html "Georgia Contact: Beth Arnow, Migrant/ESOL Programs Coordinator, Georgia Department of Education, (404) 656-4495. Requirements: State law requires schools to provide LEP student programs, designed to develop both the necessary English skills and American culture concepts for participation in regular English classroom instruction.14 Funding: There are 15, 277 LEP students. There is no state funding." May I suggest you get some facts and get back to me, until you do, everything you've claimed so far has been rebutted by supposedly reputable sources.
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