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baltim wrote:
> 
> You should have spent a little less time on the english and a little
> more time on the science........

Why?  History has proven (as I shall simply recapitulate,
using your post) that most scientists can't think their way
out of a room with four doors.  
They depend on others to get their money for them, to put
their ideas into some kind of form for them, and to
communicate with others for them. 

> You want details   ok
> 
> My referral was to those dying on the streets of Baltimore due to
> gunfire, not auto accidents. I'd have more chance to die in a cross
> fire coming home from work than to contract and die from the West Nile
> Virus. Welcome to Baltimore where the bullets are thicker than
> mosquitos.

that's this week, not next year.  Unfortunately for everyone,
human beings think in words, not "science" and as many
scientists have proven, most of them can't really think. 
I.e., most  scientists have a thought horizon of about three
weeks - or whenever the peer review will confirm or disprove
their latest incorrect theory.   

> 
> West Nile (WN) virus is a common arbovirosis in sub-Saharian Africa.
> It has occasionally caused epidemics or epizootics in horses in
> Mediterranean regions and southern Europe. The virus is transmitted to
> humans by mosquitoes (primarily the Culex species) that are infected
> by biting viremic birds. Infections in humans are usually
> asymptomatic.

Dude, there are lots of things over there that are not here. 
Are you suggesting that those things should therefore be
here?  As I did not say, but you are strongly suggesting, most
scientists are morons.

> 
> MY NOTE: that is, you never get sick.

People here have already died. How come that happened when
there is no infection and "you never get sick??"

As I said, most scientists, outside the tunnel vision of their
particular discipline, haven't got a brain in their heads.  

> 
> Rom J Virol 1997 Jan-Dec;48(1-4):3-11
>  Clinical manifestations in the West Nile virus outbreak.
>    Ceausu E, Erscoiu S, Calistru P, Ispas D, et al..
>  Dr. Victor Babes Clinic of Infectious and Tropical Diseases,
> University of Medicine and Pharmacy, Bucharest.
> 
> During the summer of 1996 an unusual clustering of meningoencephalitis
> cases was recorded in the Capital City, Bucharest, and in some
> areasfrom South-East Romania............
> This study included 251 patients with the diagnoses of West Nile acute
> encephalitis (166 cases), acute meningitis (57 cases) and acute
> febrile disease (33 cases). The patients' age ranged from 1 to 89
> years (mean 51.1 years). .........
> The fatality rate was 15.1% in acute encephalitis, 1.8% in acute
> meningitis and 0% in the acute febrile disease.
> 
> MY NOTE: mean of 51.1 years places the majority of those infected into
> an advanced age group. Fatalities of 38 out of 251 is considered a
> high fatality rate for WNV ,that is, it's abnormal.
> 
> J Vector Ecol 1999 Jun;24(1):1-39
>   Mosquito-borne viruses in western Europe: a review.
>   Lundstrom JO
>   Uppsala University, Department of Zoology, Sweden.
> 
> Several mosquito-borne arboviruses belonging to the genera Alphavirus,
> Flavivirus, and Bunyavirus have been reported to occur in mosquitoes
> and  to infect humans and other vertebrates in western Europe. These
> zoonotic   viruses circulate in nature either in an Aedes-mammal,
> Anopheles-mammal, or Culex-bird transmission cycle. Infected humans
> normally do not contribute to the virus circulation. West Nile virus
> (Flavivirus) caused an outbreak of fever, malaise, pain in eyes and
> muscles, and headache and encephalitis in southern France during
> 1962-1965, and an outbreak of encephalitis with a high case-fatality
> rate  in Romania during 1996. West Nile virus has been isolated from
> birds,  horses, and mosquitoes in Portugal, France, the former
> Czechoslovakia,  and Romania. These data, together with reports of
> antibodies to West  Nile virus in birds, domestic mammals, and humans
> in several other countries, show virus activity in southern and
> central Europe.
> 
> Hum Pathol 2000 May;31(5):527-31
>  The pathology of human West Nile Virus infection.
>   Sampson BA, Ambrosi C, Charlot A, Reiber K, Veress JF,
>   Armbrustmacher V
>  Office of Chief Medical Examiner of the City of New York, NY 10016,
> USA.
> 
> West Nile Virus (WNV) was identified by immunohistochemistry (IHC)
>  and polymerase chain reaction (PCR) as the etiologic agent in 4
>  encephalitis fatalities in New York City in the late summer of 1999.
> The fatalities occurred in persons with a mean age of 81.5 years, each
> of  whom had underlying medical problems.
> 
> MY NOTE: those who died where of an advanced age and suffered
> concurrent medical problems besides WNV infection. Most fatalities
> here and elsewhere in the world are among those already in poor
> health.
> 

You seem incapable of understanding (here's the thinking thing
again) that that doesn't matter.  Essentially, what you are
saying is that those who are old or in poor health don't
deserve to live.  Are you an East German or a Romanian?  Sorry
for the slur.   Suppose my aunt gets sick of something she can
can recover from but which, in the meantime, debilitates her. 
Then she gets infected (being in poor health she deserves
it??) with West Nile Fever and dies.  So she deserves it? 

Not only are most scientists incapable of extended thought,
but you are a  dope, dude.

Michael Flinn