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Re: Link to pollution and early death

#389
From: mcs
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 01:29
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"Werner" <whetzner@mac.com> wrote in message 
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> mcs wrote:
>> "Werner" <whetzner@mac.com> wrote in message
>> news:1163778563.489782.302610@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > mcs wrote:
>> >>.. For instance, if we had cameras that were able to see
>> >> the head of a penny from space in early 70s how is it we can't defeat
>> >> terrorists who have no army persay, no organized communication system, 
>> >> no
>> >> airforce and  no armored tanks?
>> >
>> > Guerrilla wars sometimes succeed. Guerrillas are very ruthless. They
>> > murder without mercy teachers, officials, police, doctors or anyone who
>> > opposes them; anyone who represents the 'established order'.
>> >
>> Ha I am not saying they are not lethal but how organized  and  effective 
>> can
>> many terrorists be  without  education  and the total  ammunitions we 
>> have
>> in technology  and arms  against the best trained army in the world . At
>> some point you think the technology and total number of weapons would 
>> close
>> the gap in winning this war. Lets say the same five people plant bombs 
>> and
>> then they go to the same two houses all the time. How hard would it be to
>> form some kind of strategy to even tighten the noose of those who 
>> associate
>> with them over time, by setting up traps and monitoring the same people?
>
>
> The whole point of guerrilla tactics is that they are unconventional.
> Conventional technology is generally ineffective against such tactics.
>
> If you think you have the answer I suggest you talk to the military.
>
Wait a second the reason I posted is because sometimes common sense and 
practical questions are not asked by media. Just today some cities in 
California decided to stop relying on coal which is excellent. To many 
people that will be surprise since our President is the one who pumps it all 
the time without the media asking why not more pumping for cleaner 
alternatives. Sometimes asking too many questions, incites more problems for 
people who like to control the total answers. Its sad to think if California 
get cleaner fuel, how bad will it be for NE and SE compared to them in the 
future? Why is it some people know of the dangers and listens to the stats 
but our news people don't? Why isn't the next logical question about 
tracking terrorists too difficult to ask by reporters. Look we rely on 
common sense for all practical reasons in all areas of life, why should 
normal people have to not rationalize in order to make sense of policy 
issues? Are we really free? You don't know what you have till you see 
someone choking on the air for no fault of their own. Or lose their life 
when for all practical purposes they were exterminated by energy policies 
and companies . And I swear to God I believe it.
>
>
>> Something is not right. . True terroism is lethal but do we know why many 
>> in
>> Congress say we fought an ill prepared war?  .
>>
>
>
> Sure. It's easy to say. It's easy to blame others.
>
>
>> > I'm sure we could stop the Iraq insurgency. But I expect it requires
>> > the same kind of ruthlessness practiced by insurgents. We don't have
>> > that kind of will. For example, Saddam basically wiped out Kurdish and
>> > Shiite towns to stop insurgencies. We could easily wipe out Baghdad and
>> > the surviving insurgents would reconsider their efforts. But we will
>> > not.
>>
>> then we will win or we will not win and if we don't win then what was the
>> point? At any point we have to know that any one terrorist or ten 
>> terrorists
>> can do more damages then killing thousands of them. It only takes one to 
>> to
>> ten terrorists to plot weapons of mass destruction. The sad fact is we 
>> know
>> who has the weapons of mass destruction and thats not who we are going 
>> after
>> are we?
>>
>>
>
>
> You have a point there. But how likely is NK to nuke the USA?
>
>
>>
>> >
>> >...> >
>> > I don't see any industry murdering people. I always had the impression
>> > that pharmacy industry seeks to saves lives and energy companies
>> > provide energy. What would we do without either?
>> >
>> First off you don't probably see 50 percent of commercials in our area 
>> for
>> health care. You should compare our health to other cities. we have more
>> violence and diesease and less longevity. We almost have twice the amount 
>> of
>> cancers and heart disease. My argument is if we are concerned with errant
>> car seats why we are not concerned with one in five kids getting asthma 
>> in
>> some places in ne? I am more concerned with why reporters don't think 
>> this
>> is important then why Pharmacies do know why and are here ready to pounce 
>> on
>> people whose health is compromised. In addition like I said ten times
>> before. if one were objective we have epa and Amercian Lung Association 
>> and
>> new studies pointing out studies that says tens of thousands are dying 
>> from
>> this moderate polution and I am one of them. I don;t take being poisoned
>> lightly. So then you see other things and you realize that whats 
>> happening
>> is what I consider all amercians being protected equally. to say the 
>> least.
>
>
> If things are so bad move elsewhere. Show me numbers. Don't freak out.
> Love Canal was supposed to be bad.
> http://1marketsquare.com/CapLP/Environment.shtml
>
> But don't worrry so much. Industry is moving overseas along with
> talent, jobs, quality of life and wealth.
> 
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