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after the next few weeks of cold fronts, follow the pollution charts thru
spring and summer. Allot of the same things happening along the east coast

Subject: Bush is killing your kids


>
> ----- ng Dawn)
> > >
> > > this is just part one
> > >
> > >
> 1.Villanova the college in Phily burbs which use to attract
> the top long
> > > distance athletes from area and country. Notice , I said use to ,
> because they are no longer a power in this category because smart athletes
know of the
> worsening air conditions on NE corridor Even though most of the athletes
who won here came from Ireland or use to , now if they were or smart they
skip this area. I would like to see one serious athlete train here and win,
they don't.
2. I  wrote about people dying
> earlier here and people  drowning their sorrow in beer  and football while
they have the reputation of booing Santa and worst  fans in the nation  in
getting along with opposing teams fans. Probably one of the few towns that
has a court room inside the stadium to try violent or drunk behavior.
Of course the residents of Philly get probably more pollution  and violence
then many places on earth. ( always somone murdered or victims of violence
here)
3. trees dying
4.and my trouble in breathing,
5. Tens of kids murdered here and armed guards and fights many times over
6.Epa gave this area and unacceptable
6.Particulate rate which is most lethal has gone up for two years straight.
If air is getting better I certainly don't see it.
7.Pa number 2 in asthma , due west coal plants that our dear President has
allowed to decrease pollutions controls on
8. They did longevity studies but they didn't compare cities , and the
reason would be some cities would fare horrible. I said it would be easy to
prove how bad Phillys and cities on NE corridor iair is, because if you took
impartial scientists and compared the number of hospital and doctor visits,
prescription drugs useage and average life expectancy of  all residents of
two contrasting cities, with different air ratings like Philly and say Sioux
Fall, Iowa , You would see what pollution does to a city. But since the news
media ignores it, and since most tv weatherman in bad rating cities don't
even tell you when the air is at warning levels , why might you not expect
to see these studies? You have a press worried Michael Jackson abusing one
boy and not worried about one in ten kids with asthma?
9. American Lung Association gives this area an F but what does our learders
do about it? Nothing

10.When I was in Maui I saw two hundred seniors jogging a couple of miles,
and everyone was nice , here in my town, the only thing they are doing is
dying off faster  . When
> they get on tv and talk about exercise do they realize that some
scientists
> think it might not be good for you  because if you exercise in bad air, it
might promote the early death for
> millions of people., not just Philly?
11. On top of all this ,people contemplating living here remember its
possible they don't want to tell you how bad it is for peoples health in
Philly. Over and over again we have a boxer who comitted suicide, we have
women raped and murdered in our parks , and still no arrests, we have rising
violent murder rate and no one sees a connection?
 If you think they are worried about Michael Jackson and
> not Millions o other f kids , you then get an idea how controlled we are.
when
> weather people don't mention Warning on warning level air days.YOU know we
> are being poisoned. The question is why?  . I went to the shore to escape
> the bad air in winter and what do I see? Thousands of bags of hospital
waste
> coming ashore and later on tv they say seals beached themselves and they
> never mentioned the bags of hospital waste.
> `12 Philly is also one of the only cities that has huge oil refineries
which one study said produces the worse pollution in nation. How come this
was not factored in when they rate Phillly:?
>
> > > > -----
> > > Subject: Re: George Bush is Killing your Kids
> > >
> > >
> > > > U.S. blocks binding mercury treaty
> > > >
> > > > U.N.-brokered international talks on mercury-reduction plans wrapped
> > > > up last week.  Instead of the legally binding global treaty favored
> > > > by the European Union, the result was a plan to curb mercury
> > > > emissions through "voluntary partnerships" among member countries,
> > > > international organizations, and industries.  "Voluntary" being the
> > > > buzzword closest to the Bush administration's, uh, heart, U.S.
> > > > negotiators were upbeat about the outcome:  "I'm really encouraged
> > > > that we all came together at the end," said the State Department's
> > > > Claudia McMurray.  "Everyone is enthusiastic about this
[partnership]
> > > > approach."  But Linda Greer, health programs director at the Natural
> > > > Resources Defense Council, didn't get the enthusiasm memo.  "I don't
> > > > consider the partnerships much of a step forward at all," she said.
> > > > "With the U.S. refusing to listen to anything but their own idea, it
> > > > was impossible to accomplish more. They were really bullies at the
> > > > meeting."

. I have seen trees go down in myparks
> > > and
> Ihave seen people I use to run with drop out. I have a pharamicist say
asthma
> meds sales are going thru the roof. I have to wait two hours to see
> my
> asthma doc and two kids died , yep died from asthma/ flu in our
> area, *that we know about from tv,
and  on
> > > > > the map that measures  the pollution levels in  air in the  area ,
> it always seems to be
> > one
> > > > of
> > > > > the worse, especially  in the summer but we had ten days of
warning air in the winter already,  countriy  and its
> > > > > getting worse ( particulates)  year after year. On top of this we
> have oil refineries within city limits  . Now say what you will
> > > for
> > > > > everything else the
> > > > > guy has done well, why in the name of God can't a press or a
> candidate
> > > > come
> > > > > up with tinformation to confront the President with .How after one
> > > in
> > > > > ten kids with asthma could he claim he cares about what is right
> when
> > he
> > > > > Superceded pollution controls for Coal producers and and other
> > polluters
> > > > > and said they don't have to follow the rules to clean up their
> > pollution
> > > (
> > > > >( to the extent they did in past which  to many people think is
still
> not enough ),
> > > while
> > > > > he cuts alternativeenergy  funding and says he wants to cut Amtrak
> funding
> > > which
> > > > > saves much areas from traffic congestion. While rest of world
builds
> > > > bullet
> > > > > trains we / Bush is concentrating ways incredibly enough to poison
> people
> > > more.
> > > > > Does this guy have a God?
> > >   I dare a press person ask the President about all
> > > these
> > > > > correlations ! I can show you the meds and I
> can show you the downed trees and I don't see bush biking in my city.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Life expectency increasing? Read below
> > > > > >
> > > got one thing to say. Bush, we will see who was
> > > > > > > right when you have to answer to this someday.  while he bikes
> in
> > > the
> > > > > > hills
> > > > > > > of Virginia.
> > > > > > > Someone brought up the point about life expectency rising BUT
> its
> > > > > > To the degree that tv don't tell you when even the air is at
> WARNING
> > > > > levels and one in ten kids with asthma but worried if Mike Jackson
abused one boy?
> > > > > > whats that tell you? Second , they do comparisons with so many
> > > factors,
> > > > > they
> > > > > > can't do a longevity study by city? I have written Congressman
> about
> > > my
> > > > > > concern with pollution and why studies can't be made easily by
> using
> > > > > > different occupation standards affected by pollution. They don't
> > > answer
> > > > > me.
> > > > > > The point is I have many links to pollution and ill health.Here
is
> > the
> > > > > only
> > > > > > study I could come up with that dealt with life expectency.
> > > > > > http://www.economics.pomona.edu/StatSite/Pollute.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3-919-3460-097Asthma rates among UK children have quadrupled
since
> > the
> > > > > 1970s
> > > > > > and more than doubled in the past decade, according to a study
> > > published
> > > > > on
> > > > > > Wednesday.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > More than 2,700 children have been involved in a 30-year
research
> > > > project,
> > > > > > which has identified a major increase in asthma levels between
> 1973
> > > and
> > > > > > 2003.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Back in 1973, a project survey showed that 5.5 percent of
children
> > had
> > > > > been
> > > > > > diagnosed with asthma. By 1988, that number had more than
doubled,
> > > with
> > > > > 12%
> > > > > > suffering from the condition.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The latest in the series of surveys, carried out in 2003, showed
> > 27.3
> > > > > > percent with asthma.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The study was released at the British Thoracic Society's (BTS)
> > Winter
> > > > > > Meeting in London.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Just when we thought we may have turned a corner, our research
> > shows
> > > > that
> > > > > > asthma prevalence has rocketed over the past 30 years," said Dr
> > > Michael
> > > > > Burr
> > > > > > of the University Hospital of Wales in Cardiff, who led the
> > > > research.Much
> > > > > of
> > > > > > this thought to be connected to pollution in the air.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "We all need to have a better understanding of the condition and
> > > > measures
> > > > > to
> > > > > > combat it."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Professor Andrew Peacock of the BTS noted the UK has among the
> > highest
> > > > > rates
> > > > > > of asthma in Europe.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "We must tackle asthma on a number of fronts, including vital
> > research
> > > > > into
> > > > > > possible genetic causes and urge appropriate use of preventative
> > > > > treatments,
> > > > > > as this study shows that their use can be beneficial," he added
in
> a
> > > > > > statement.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > GENEVA (AFP) - Fine particles, emitted in particular by cars,
> reduce
> > > the
> > > > > > life expectancy of people in Europe by up to two years and are
as
> > > lethal
> > > > > as
> > > > > > road accidents, a study said.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > AFP/File Photo
> > > > > >
> > > > > > These particles, which measure less than 2.5 thousandths of a
> > > millimetre
> > > > > in
> > > > > > size, "shorten our life time over Europe by around eight
months,"
> > said
> > > > > > Markus Amann, of the International Institute for Applied Systems
> > > > Analysis
> > > > > > and one of the authors of the report.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "They are a major reason for heart attacks," he told a news
> > conference
> > > > in
> > > > > > Geneva, where an international meeting on air pollution is
taking
> > > place.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Areas of the continent that are more urbanised, such as Benelux,
> > > > northern
> > > > > > Italy, Ukraine and Russia are exposed to much higher levels of
> > > pollution
> > > > > > that reduces the life expectancy of inhabitants by two years, he
> > > > declared.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Due to their minute size, the particles can remain in the air
for
> 40
> > > to
> > > > 50
> > > > > > hours and be pushed by the wind over distances of some 3,000
> > > kilometres
> > > > > > (1,875 miles), the expert said.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They trigger lung and respiratory diseases as well as increased
> risk
> > > of
> > > > > > cardiovascular illness as they enter the body through the lungs
> and
> > > also
> > > > > the
> > > > > > blood, Amann explained.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steelworks, cementworks and power stations are major sources of
> the
> > > > deadly
> > > > > > dust as well as diesel-powered automobiles.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At present, only the car maker Peugeot has installed special
> filters
> > > in
> > > > > its
> > > > > > vehicles to counter the emissions but such technology will
become
> > > > > obligatory
> > > > > > throughout the European Union (news - web sites).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Delegates from 49 countries that are party to the Convention on
> > > > Long-range
> > > > > > Transboundary Air Pollution, implemented in 1979 by the United
> > Nations
> > > > > > (news - web sites) Economic Commission for Europe, are meeting
in
> > > Geneva
> > > > > > from Monday until Friday to discuss the issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Polar ice caps are melting. Proof enough.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.adn.com/front/story/780638p-832316c.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/science/081900sci-climate-pole.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/mefrog_22/icecaps.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Exposure to air pollution, even in the womb, may be linked to
> > genetic
> > > > > > >changes associated with an increased risk of cancer,
researchers
> > said
> > > > > > >yesterday.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >That finding, from a study done in New York City by scientists
at
> > > > > > >Columbia University, followed 60 newborns and their nonsmoking
> > > mothers
> > > > > > >in low-income neighborhoods, primarily in Harlem and the Bronx.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Exposure to pollutants caused chiefly by vehicles was measured
> by
> > > > > > >backpack air monitors worn by the women during the third
> trimester
> > of
> > > > > > >pregnancy.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >When the babies were born, genetic alterations were measured.
> > > > > > >Researchers found an increase of about 50 percent in the level
of
> > > > > > >persistent genetic abnormalities among infants with high levels
> of
> > > > > > >exposure, said the study's senior author, Dr. Frederica P.
> Perera,
> > > > > > >director of the Columbia Center for Children's Environmental
> > Health.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >"We already knew that air pollutants significantly reduced
fetal
> > > > growth,
> > > > > > >but this is the first time we've seen evidence that they can
> change
> > > > > > >chromosomes in utero," Dr. Perera said, adding that the kind of
> > > genetic
> > > > > > >changes that occurred had been linked in other studies to
> increased
> > > > risk
> > > > > > >of cancer.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >While the researchers cannot estimate the precise increase in
> > cancer
> > > > > > >risk, she said, the findings underscore a need for government
to
> > take
> > > > > > >steps to protect children.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >The study, published in the journal Cancer Epidemiology
> Biomarkers
> > > and
> > > > > > >Prevention, is part of a multiyear research project started in
> 1998
> > > > that
> > > > > > >examines the effects of exposure of pregnant women and babies
to
> > air
> > > > > > >pollutants, pesticides and tobacco smoking.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > By DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writer
> > > > > >
> > > > > > WASHINGTON - Emissions from old diesel engines cause more than
> > 20,000
> > > > > > Americans a year to die sooner than they would have otherwise,
an
> > > > > > environmental group estimated Tuesday.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Related Links
> > > > > > . Worst Cities, States for Diesel Exhaust (AP)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > An industry group criticized the findings as outdated and
> > misleading.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The metropolitan areas with the highest number of early deaths
> from
> > > > diesel
> > > > > > engines were New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago, according to
the
> > > > > > Boston-based Clear Air Task Force. The study included the
> > surrounding
> > > > > > suburbs, so New York's estimated total of 2,729 deaths included
> > parts
> > > of
> > > > > New
> > > > > > Jersey and Connecticut.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The states with the most deaths were New York with 2,332,
> California
> > > > with
> > > > > > 1,784, and Pennsylvania with 1,170, according to the group.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The group said it based its figures on the most recent
government
> > > > > emissions
> > > > > > data - from 1999 - and from public health studies of the effects
> of
> > > > > various
> > > > > > types of air pollutants.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Conrad Schneider, co-author of the report, said regulations
> designed
> > > to
> > > > > make
> > > > > > new diesel engines cleaner don't affect millions of older
trucks,
> > > buses
> > > > > and
> > > > > > construction engines.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Those are great rules, they will hold new engines to higher
> > > standards.
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > In the meantime, we're stuck with a legacy of dirty diesel
> engines,"
> > > > said
> > > > > > Schneider, advocacy director for Clean Air Task Force, a
coalition
> > of
> > > > > > regional and local groups.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Environmental Protection Agency (news - web sites) last year
> > > > required
> > > > > > new diesel engines on trucks and buses to cut in half the amount
> of
> > > > > nitrogen
> > > > > > oxides produced. In 2007 emissions are to be cut further.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since many older diesel engines can run for 30 years, more
action
> is
> > > > > needed
> > > > > > by federal, state, and local governments to retrofit existing
> diesel
> > > > > engines
> > > > > > to run more cleanly, the group said.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Retrofits for a typical transit bus can cost about $5,000 to
> $7,000.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The head of a Washington-based industry group criticized the
> > report's
> > > > > > assumptions and conclusions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "I think they have overstated the risk here using data that's
six
> > > years
> > > > > > old," said Allan Schaeffer, executive director of the Diesel
> > > Technology
> > > > > > Forum.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Schaeffer said it takes eight modern tractor trailer engines to
> > > produce
> > > > > the
> > > > > > same amount of pollution generated by one such engine made
twelve
> > > years
> > > > > ago,
> > > > > > and that diesel exhaust comprises just 4.4 percent of fine
> particle
> > > > > > pollution.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Our industry is getting cleaner faster than most other
industries
> > out
> > > > > > there," Schaeffer said.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Diesel pollution is blamed for contributing to asthma,
respiratory
> > > > > diseases,
> > > > > > and heart attacks. The study estimates the risk of health
> > > complications
> > > > > from
> > > > > > diesel exhaust for people living in cities is three times higher
> > than
> > > > the
> > > > > > risk for those in rural areas.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > __we have this technology to see in space since the 60s and we
> can't
> > > > stop
> > > > > > > > terrorists in 700 square miles? Fifty years to develop this?
> You
> > > > know
> > > > > > why
> > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > jobs, We have fast internet, we have steel that protects
> people
> > in
> > > > > cars,
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > have oil free buses but what would people do for jobs? We
have
> > the
> > > > > > > > technology to do lots of things but then the rich would not
> stay
> > > > rich.
> > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > rich is in place to take your money in markets and for you
to
> be
> > > > > > satisfied
> > > > > > > > living in poor health, paying for your own lost health on
> > purpose,
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > addicted to beer , anti depressants , car mechanics, and
> > > > > pharmaceutical.
> > > > > > > Thats our life as a
> > > > > > > > robot. I don't think it I know it. For this your lucky to
make
> > 18
> > > > > thous
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > year.
> > > > > > > > Do NOT invest in markets cause your money is played against
on
> > > > purpose
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > its a trap, a literal trap.
> > > > > > > > everyone should know the world is often about conspiracies
and
> > > often
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > conspiracies are : 1, keeping rich in place,2, production of
> > jobs
> > > at
> > > > > > > > whatever expense. The idea is not to stop crime, terror or
> > > pollution
> > > > ,
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > idea is to keep it all going so the people needed to utilize
> > > jails,
> > > > > > police
> > > > > > > > forces, pharmaceuticals, car companies and jobs is running
> > > smoothly.
> > > > > So
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > pace of progress seems slow ON PURPOSE. Surely there is not
> > allot
> > > of
> > > > > > jobs
> > > > > > > > worrying about Nukes from China or Russia but take a smaller
> > > country
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > make terrorism a issue and look out we are on the ground
again
> > and
> > > > > > > churning
> > > > > > > > defense jobs andmilitary sense of purpose. What if we built
a
> > car
> > > > that
> > > > > > > > really protected people or needed less maintenence? ,
> (lol-hint
> > > cop
> > > > > cars
> > > > > > > > produce less injuries inspite of more crashes) would we need
> > > > insurance
> > > > > > > > companies and adjusters or mechanics? Guess what we could do
> it
> > > > easily
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > we wouldn't have that many people working. What if we took
the
> > > same
> > > > > > > > technology that took your license plate down after you went
> past
> > a
> > > > red
> > > > > > > light
> > > > > > > > from sky cams and we used it to fight terror or crime, would
> we
> > > need
> > > > > > > > thousands of soldiers in iraq or police force and security
> > > guards?(I
> > > > > am
> > > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > > we can do it) What if we really utilized not only cars that
> > > protect
> > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > from crashes but get this utilized hybreds or oil free cars
> and
> > > > buses?
> > > > > > We
> > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > have buses that run on zinc now and had them for last ten
> years,
> > > and
> > > > > > solar
> > > > > > > > cells but where would our pharmacists work, where would our
> drug
> > > > > > companies
> > > > > > > > and insurance companies get income from , if not from your
> lost
> > > > health
> > > > > > > later
> > > > > > > > in life instead of now, or your need to not support the
> richest
> > > > people
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > the world? All this means delays in doing the right things
> while
> > > > > > > scientists
> > > > > > > > come up with new ways to produce jobs in future and that
might
> > be
> > > by
> > > > > > > > treating victimes of weapons of mass production by theory
> > anyway.
> > > If
> > > > > > > > millions were told they would lead lives of quiet
desperation
> > > > addicted
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > drinking beer what would millions do who work and produce
this
> > > mess
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > treat their subsequent damage they leave? So the idea for
> world
> > > > order
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > for religious leaders to get together and work out sane
> > > alternatives
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > peaceful life, its to keep the hate going and so we produce
> jobs
> > > for
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > masses . In life its about keeping the rich rich, and the
> people
> > > > > working
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > any expense.
> > > > > > > > The President supercedes Congressional rules for polluters
> and,
> > > > allows
> > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > >  more ways to stall pollution controls, then brashfully
> ignores
> > > all
> > > > > > Kyoto
> > > > > > > > global warming rules and keep the amount of carbon dioxide
in
> > our
> > > > air
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > such levels people end up paying for their own lost health,
> > while
> > > > the
> > > > > > > number
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > >  prescription drugs and nebulizers we need to breathe soars
> and
> > > one
> > > > in
> > > > > > ten
> > > > > > > > of our kids has trouble breathing and asthma, and not a
> > > > > > > > > > thing is said about why or doesn't bother him? (Not only
> > that
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > freedom to post about it is limited to a newsgroups and if
you
> > > > notice
> > > > > > many
> > > > > > > > Isp no longer tell their subscribers of them). To even
imagine
> > > that
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > government adds to this
> > > > > > > >  misery for millions is often beyond comprehension, that
many
> > > people
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > rather not deal with?. Then if this ain't hell enough for
> > setting
> > > > > people
> > > > > > > >  up
> > > > > > > > and making them pay for their own lost health, the president
> > > > deplores
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >  rising cost of health care and says we might have to raise
> taxs
> > > or
> > > > to
> > > > > > cut
> > > > > > > >  social security or allow investing in markets where
trillions
> > > have
> > > > > been
> > > > > > > > transferred from investors who lost due to rules allowing
> market
> > > > > makers
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > Ceos and hedge funds to rape the investor before they
know
> > > what
> > > > > hit
> > > > > > > > them, like the
> > > > > > > > > > Presidents former company that drained all investors
funds
> > > while
> > > > > he
> > > > > > > came
> > > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > >  with  riches at investors expense.And his oil buddies that
> make
> > > you
> > > > > pay
> > > > > > > > more for oil then anything else combined EVER in your life
for
> > > most
> > > > > > > > Americans for decades.Its one thing we need oil but another
to
> > cut
> > > > > > funding
> > > > > > > for alternatives  while the same oil gets record profits  ,
and
> > for
> > > > this
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > get terorrists attacks and pollution . The only people who
make
> > out
> > > > over
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > over are the companies that set you up for their control of
oil.
> > > > Pretty
> > > > > > good
> > > > > > > has all your money options tied up aye? For all this
> > > > > > > > madness,one in four of us are
> > > > > > > >  mentally ill, he gives tax breaks for the rich, , and he
cuts
> > > > > spending
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > >  the poor while, one in four kids lives in poverty, one in
ten
> > > kids
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > >  asthma, record oil profits soar year after year while he
cuts
> > > > > spending
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > >  alternative energy , credit card debts soar, record asthma
> > > > increases,
> > > > > > > > record obesity increases, record alcohol sales, meth using
> > > soaring,
> > > > > > > > > nations debt
> > > > > > > > > > soaring, record number people (or close)in jail, with
> 30,708
> > > > > > firearms
> > > > > > > > > deaths and One American Child or Teen Killed by Gunfire
> Nearly
> > > > Every
> > > > > 3
> > > > > > > > > Hours ( http://www.gunguys.com/ ) and a President who
> provides
> > > > > > > absolutely
> > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > moral encouragement to counter it, importing millions of
> > > illegals,
> > > > > > while
> > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > lose jobs for our own workers and exporting
> > > > > > > >  of thousands of jobs overseas while mega mergers increase,
> and
> > > > small
> > > > > > > shops
> > > > > > > >  go under. While top 1percent keeps getting a bigger share
of
> > > > nations
> > > > > > > > > wealth
> > > > > > > > > > millions of people don't even have basic health
> insurance.If
> > > > your
> > > > > > > > > kid couldnt breathe or if your family was broken or if
your
> > kid
> > > > > > wondered
> > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > he wasnt going to be a victim of crime everyday would you
> > > learn?We
> > > > > > > wonder
> > > > > > > > why
> > > > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > > > kids cant learn ? Meanwhile
> > > > > > > > > we are losing hundreds of men to fight WMD that don't seem
> to
> > > > exist,
> > > > > > > while
> > > > > > > > > the haliburtons and defense contractors and oil companies
> > keep
> > > > > piling
> > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > record  expenses , while the
> > > > > > > > > countries that really have WMD, continue to threaten and
our
> > > > > > advesaries
> > > > > > > > > continue to get stronger,and the Saudis which started this
> > mess,
> > > > > gets
> > > > > > > left
> > > > > > > > to continue to rape us, while denying  the reasons that
their
> > hate
> > > > > > > > started this to begin with .The us talks about need to have
> oil
> > to
> > > > > heat
> > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > homes
> > > > > > > > and to run cars, but
> > > > > > > > to the extent that they make record profits for decades?
> Doen't
> > > that
> > > > > > make
> > > > > > > > one ask if this isn't more like mandated monopoly that have
> > every
> > > > > reason
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > the world to limit all sane
> > > > > > > > alternatives.. Most people don't know we have the technology
> to
> > > run
> > > > > > buses
> > > > > > > > without oil or gas emissions but you don't see it being used
> and
> > > why
> > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > they use it since the same companies that rape you wouldn't
be
> > > able
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > anymore, We have an elected branch of Senators and
> Congressman,
> > > > where
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > almost have to be rich to get elected  what happened to
election
> > > > reform
> > > > > > AND. We have a political system where in
> > > > > > > many states you have elected officals getting caught with
graft
> in
> > > > their
> > > > > > > administration. (to the extent we still go after this
corruption
> > > > > probably
> > > > > > > means we still have some freedom) in almost every area.Gee
what
> if
> > > we
> > > > > all
> > > > > > did the right thing for once?
> > > > > > Someone told me in a newsgroup they moved from my area but not
> > because
> > > > of
> > > > > > pollution.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When someone from my town said they moved but not because of
> > > pollution,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > they have not kneeled over yet, this is what I told him:. " over
> > yet,
> > > > > unless
> > > > > > you want to. The point is do you want to
> > > > > > > kneel over faster then everyone else if its not because your
> > having
> > > > fun?
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > mean I know lots of you don't care, but there are some people
I
> > know
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > do. Yes we can and are and will move , but the point is if you
> > don't
> > > > > > care
> > > > > > > here, you won't care about doing the right things later on.
Just
> > > > because
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > let the ordinary news dictate what is important or real, you
> can't
> > > be
> > > > > > smart
> > > > > > > enough to find enough links to see how dangerous it is for you
> and
> > > > your
> > > > > > > family now?  What is evident after all the links I gave to
> > > > > > > pollution and how little is said about in traditional news,
is
> > how
> > > > > > > dependent regular people are to  governments policy and the
main
> > > news
> > > > > > > source for all their news or opinions. I can now see how hate
is
> > > > > nourished in other countries and leaves
> > > > > > people no options but believe in what is told to them. I can see
> how
> > > one
> > > > > > person  or a government can easily shape what people believe and
> > think
> > > > > even
> > > > > > if its wrong,
> > > > > > > and thru it all we still do have an epa and we still have a
> right
> > to
> > > > > hear
> > > > > > both sides so we still have some freedoms.But many people don't
> want
> > > to
> > > > > look past their immediate source for the real truth.
> > > > > > >. This  shows how easily people
> > > > > > > can be duped into not knowing what is best for themselves or a
> > > family
> > > > > and
> > > > > > a government who often sets up people for their own destructive
> > health
> > > > > and
> > > > > > wrong roll models.  > fortunately we still have some
> counterbalances
> > > to
> > > > > > protect our rights (
> > > > > > > newsgroups), no matter how deluded some here ( gary ) is on
> > wanting
> > > > you
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > NOT get it. To the degree that our air continues to be not
good
> > or
> > > > > close
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > bad (like today) is almost to extent that most people in this
> area
> > > > don't
> > > > > > > know about it. I urge people to spread this information to
your
> > > > > neighbors
> > > > > > > and get politicans and news media  to care about one of the
most
> > > > > important
> > > > > >  factors in your
> > > > > > > life, the quality of the air.. There are sooo many things that
> > > > influence
> > > > > our health , why ignore
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > > of the most important?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > .GEE the burden on car makers or utility companies to just
lower
> > the
> > > > > > > > pollution but NO all rules aside, MORE Profit to select few
> ( as
> > > if
> > > > > they
> > > > > > > > needed more) at your kids health and your families costs
> > expense.
> > > So
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > Bush
> > > > > > > > poisoning you so other people have employment while he bikes
> in
> > > the
> > > > > > > > foothills of Virgina is FREEDOM
> > > > > > > > and the reason we don't need kyoto? The only freedom most
> people
> > > > have
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > US is to become sick and the freedom to be a victim to top
one
> > > > percent
> > > > > > .
> > > > > > > > Most people only have the freedom to post to few message
> boards
> > > and
> > > > > > > > newsgroups and even that most people can't afford to . Most
> > people
> > > > in
> > > > > US
> > > > > > > > will never see these messages. That's our
> > > > > > > > freedom.. My recommendation : don't ever gamble, don't ever
> > invest
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > US
> > > > > > > > markets and try not to think about what your seeing around
> you,
> > > > > without
> > > > > > > > falling victim to Bushs America.
> > > > >
> > > > > Many people are so pessimistic with
> > > > > > > expectations of people doing the wrong things from government
as
> > the
> > > > > role
> > > > > > > models, they post on newsgroups how its good people deserved
to
> be
> > > > raped
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > murdered., not a few but by the hundreds. Being facetious and
> > being
> > > > mean
> > > > > spirited is somehow related to
> > > > > > > competition and expectation of someone else getting over on
> > someone
> > > > and
> > > > > > > accepted. That's how society ultimately is affected by
policies
> we
> > > > have
> > > > > > > evolved to come to expect from our government. This is turning
> > into
> > > a
> > > > > > > loveless society. Look at our town in Philly, the legendary
John
> > > > Chaney
> > > > > the basketball coach of the Temple Owls, who sent in a goon (
lousy
> > name
> > > > but
> > > > > accurate) to foul people because he didn't like the officiating.
> Then Philly crime rate is going up, and our reputation for bad sports fans
> ( drunk) is legendary.  Then
> > > > there
> > > > > is the torturing of our prisoners in Iraq.The mentality to be
strong
> > or
> > > > > getting over someone ,even if it means poisoning our air or our
> people
> > > or
> > > > > throwing someone down and breaking their arm in college bastket
ball
> or our kids not learning,
> > > just
> > > > > oozes with correlations that are connected. Its not an accident
> these
> > > > things
> > > > > are happening. because we have God only now let ourselves become
> > > > complacent
> > > > > with news media doing nothing to tell us the truth and government
> more
> > > > > concerned with untold billions for oil and hate then doing the
right
> > > > things
> > > > > for even their own people and kids. Shame on us! I tell you this a
> > > farce.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > America was great because of our past freedom of speech and
> past
> > > > > > > utilization
> > > > > > > > of elections and our great abundance of foods and  farm and
> goods and  our
> > > > many
> > > > > > > > engineers. Thats all changing and we now have record debt ,
> > > > > > > > asthma,prisoners, violent crim , illegals oil prices , and
> aging baby boomers who are
> > > depending
> > > > on
> > > > > our President and the rich to rape them while press is silent and
> > world
> > > > > justly hates.us all and they call this freedom> >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On the Net:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Clean Air Task Force report:
http://www.catf.us/goto/dieselreport
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pennsylvania which is downwind from Coal pollution is number 2
in
> > > asthma
> > > > > > thanks to George Bush.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > "DDJ" <ddj@ddj.zzn.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:v2VUd.38008$by5.2553@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com...
> > > > > I have a couple enviromental questions that you may be able to
> answer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Environmentalists say that the polution is much worse now than it
> was
> > > > thirty
> > > > > years ago, listing all manner of health conditions that are worse
> and
> > > > > environmental damage being done.  Yet, anti-polution and emission
> > > > standards
> > > > > legislation only really began approximately thirty years ago.  If
> all
> > > the
> > > > > legislation that environmentalists have managed to get passed
> actually
> > > > > served a purpose, then the environment and related health issues
> would
> > > be
> > > > > better, not worse.
> > > > >
> > > > > Since you claim environment related health problems are worse than
> in
> > > > 1973,
> > > > > are you stating that the policies environmentalists pursue are
> > > pointless?
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, if these policies have completely failed, as you seem to
> claim,
> > > then
> > > > > why would we want more of the same?
> > > > >
> > > > > Not taking a position, just asking for clarification.  On one
hand,
> > > > > environmentalists seem to say the legislation they seek is crucial
> to
> > > save
> > > > > the environment.  On the other hand, they say the environment is
> worse
> > > > than
> > > > > it was in the past, meaning environmental legislation passed in
the
> > past
> > > > > thirty years must have failed.  Which is it?
> > > > >
> > > > > "No , cars and population has increased.. So what  is it your
> asking,?  you
> turning this around to say its not getting better to prove it is ? lol Ask
> your pharmacist why asthma meds are increasing. Its not some magic little
> bug, that is mysteriously going around hitting people because of a virus.
I
> can literally sense the change in the air and my breathing as soon as the
> air hits MODERATE level for particulates. Moderat level incidentally is a
> misnomer even in EPA standards since even EPA says exercising in it can
> cause harm .for people who are sensitve.So the frustrating of now seeing
one
> in two days almost with moderate levels of particulates which is the most
> lethal some say, for our air quality is quite horrendous. This my friend
is
> totally unacceptable.  there are studies that can pinpoint this without
any
> doubt in the world. If you read my links all researchers would have to do
is
> take people from age 40 on up who basically had the same job, and
lifestyle
> for instance working as a tax collector living in clean air city ( low
ozone
> and particulates) and compared their health to same people in Philly for
> example .  Not onlywould  this prove that bad airs damaging effects it
would
> prove that we are being poisoned. I have been in Hawaii and I have been in
> nice cities in Iowa and I can attest there usually is less violence and
less
> bad things in addition to people living longer or seemingly more healthy
and
> out and about. I have seen people in my area stop running by the droves
even
> though they would not tell you why this was happening. I have seen trees
go
> down, I have seen people ask the nurse in my doctors office to please ask
> for Prescription for asthma meds.I have literally and I mean
> literallyexperience  the difference in the air as in choking to breathe
> because I can experience the changes from good to moderate  levels of
> particulates. I remember Villanova use to get the best long distance
> athletes in the country. Even though its possible to still see some
> Villanova long distance runners win, I dare anyone to show me anyone from
> Philly or who trains in  Philly to win anything in the way of long
distance
> competitions. There are over five million people in this metro area ,
surely
> if pollution had no serious affect you can find a few who trained here and
> won nationally something? There just is soo many correlations its not even
> if, the only
> question I have is how many people are dying faster and how many years are
> their lives shortened? when a news force can worry about a defective car
> seat but not milllions of people with asthma there is something wrong. If
> you can get six hours of news covering a mild snow storm but not even a
> mention when it relates to WARNINGS bad air days, and in fact they say its
> beautiful , what are they covering up? What the hell is going on ? How in
> the hell can people accept their own funerals faster? What thefk is going
> on?
>
>