🚀 go-pugleaf

favorite drink: alcohol, one in thirteen americans
(http://www.addictionintervention.com/addiction/alcohol.asp) addicted to
alcohol,average american pays oil over 200 thousand in lifetime to oil
countries, One in four mental illness. Six million in jail or parole (
2003, 6.9 million people were on probation, in jail or prison, or on parole
at yearend 2003 -- 3.2% of all U.S. adult residents or 1 in every 32)
adults-http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/correct.htm
something like that, 20 million with asthma in fact it maybe more like one
in ten kids now!!!!!! (
http://www.accessexcellence.org/HHQ/qow/qow03/qow040510.html) ,one in four
kids living in poverty, 80 percent of Senate millionaires,top one percent
control 50 percent of nations wealth. Some democracy we show the world

more asthma links
http://www.dental.am/stuff.php?id=5404_0_1_0_C



"mcs" <mcs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eT9Od.36054$g16.29525@trndny08...
> really Gary when time is up for both of us we shall see who chose the
right
> things to think about, not the person who is in denial and is smart enough
> to know the difference
> really Gary its all unsubstantiated. When time is up you explain it to
your
> God < I am totally at ease. What parts don't make sense?
>
>
> Us is in big state of denial about the quality of democracy it sells
> > itself
> > > > and world You got to be mega rich to be elected in US Senate or
> Congress
> > > or
> > > > have tv news on your side. Over 70 percent of Senate  are or will be
> millionaires soon.  Our news media totally ignore s the number of
> > > > prescription drugs we take and why , and our air quality and
> corresponding health problems often goes totally ignored in our free press
> because the drug companies pay millions to keep the correlations from
seeing
> light of day by paying millions for drug ads..
> Our press ignores and our nations debt,  and the  loss and
> exporting
> > > of
> > > > millions of jobs, while  tens of millions of illegals (some say one
in
> ten people in US is or was illegal) vie for rest of jobs , while close  to
> three million homeless, with the average low income worker unable to
afford
> a typical two bedroom apt to rent ( this from HUD).One
>  in four kids in poverty,  one in eight to fifteen  kids with asthma or
will
> get it and a press totally silent, Who wants this democracy? ?> > > We
have
> market
> makers and hedge fund trading which assures continued
> > > losses
> > > > for MOST investors except insiders and market makers who set you up
> and
> > > counter any investor momentum by going opposite legally because they
> just
> > > can. then when you get out they take the stock back up making it
appear
> investors gained. The continued losses that goes unsaid , truly a
conspiracy
> of
> > global
> > > proportions .Where the winners are the people who
> > > > rape you and do it within the law mandated by Congress controlled by
> the
> > > Yep you guess it the same rich who are the only ones getting
> elected..YEP
> > > MOST investors lose , some freedom
> > > > aye while ceos make off with mega millions ?. Top one percent
> > > > getting larger and larger share of wealth, ( disproportionate)while
> > having
> > > > to be rich to be elected
> > > > for office in Congress and Senate, who have absolutely no incentive
to
> > > > do anything for the majority but make the mouse traps better for
> > > > themselves,. US is often about
> > > > about being victims, to violence , crime, illness and fear  of which
> that is  almost a daily occurance
> > > for
> > > > millions
> > > > of people , especially the lower and middle class who has to
> > additionally
> > > pay for lost health, record credit card debt, lower savings, lost
> > optimism, broken families, lostjobs, drugs and alcohol  to cope ,market
> > losses, and  lost  hope, and
> > > that which actually limits freedom and  doing the right things because
> of
> > > fear of being set up or a victim again. . If only the criminals didn't
> > target their
> > > own class of people Perhaps one day our violence will actually be
less
> then that from terrorism  ... Do this over and over and we slowly destroy
> > > ourselves and the values when our kids see things as a set up and
> > > expectation for failure  or free pass to lie and manipulate  or make
> > someone
> > > sick in order to move ahead . Thats assuming they weren't affected
> permantely from these conditions some call freedom to begin with. Just
> horrific role models we teach our
> kids.
> > > What does society do to counter it?
> > Congress ignores: loss of privacy,  increased business mergers and mega
> > > > malls while small shops are going under, allows unlimited credit
card
> fees
> and
> > > > profits  , record consumer credit debt, high oil prices and  record
> > > profits from oil over and over for decades while pollution and asthma
> and global
> > warming go unabated, the price we pay for reliance on the wrong things,
> and
> > > > market fraud  where insiders and market makers have the freedom to
> rape the investor
> > > faster and quicker , and do it without a thing said.
> >  They have tv and news people paid
> > > millions to put on happy shi...dribble about sports starts and movie
> stars
> > > while ignoring everything more important. We have record  alcohol
sales
> because some people see this as a viable alternative from the reality
while
> we talk about drunk driving and health as if we should see the
connections.
> Talk about democracy , this is
> > > hell for people adversely affected ..
> > > Our press ignores
> > > > pollution -asthma connection from cars and buses which causes many
> > people
> > > > taking record number of prescriptions for lung conditions and press
is
> > > > silent,and of course our resolve to forget aboutglobal warming but
> would
> > > rather pay for the damage in some future consequence instead. .
Control
> > > takes alot of
> > > > manipulation and in the end we do worse then had we done the right
> > things
> > > > to start. I think we pit people against each other cause it produces
> > jobs
> > > > and the rich stay rich.We are destroying ourselves while we don't
even
> > > have
> > > > a news media
> > > > that goes over our hypocrices . But free? They gots to be kidding.
> > record
> > > > number of people in jail, record number of prescriptions for
> > medications,
> > > > tens of thousands of murders each year, record number of asthma,
while
> > oil
> > > > gets record revenue for last fifty years, ( most americans pay oil
> > > countries
> > > > more money then anything they ever will spend on their kids and
> families
> > > or
> > > > homes combines) and while rich get record amount of nations wealth ,
> one in four
> > > with
> > > > mental disease. Ever wonder why telephone companies can block every
> > number
> > > > out except out of state calls? Can you say so bill collectors and
> > > marketers
> > > > can call you? We worry about protecting a Saudi prince while 80
> billion
> > > > could have been spent on solar , wind power, fuel cells, there would
> no
> > > need
> > > > to support the saudis who bombed us by the way. But you know this
> keeps
> > > > employment and rich richer. If we had spend this to begin with we
> > wouldn't
> > > > be dying in IRAQ. What is the pain all this violence and fears and
> > asthma
> > > > and lost wealth put on people? Unimanageable and of which is
> discounted
> > by
> > > > history and  people who were never affected or too cold to envision
> what
> > > > hypocrisy is all about.We do this so the Haliburtons and Ceos
maintain
> record profits at the expense of small guys. Now supposidly we are worried
> about sound weapons and laster weapons technology? The world is gone made
> > > > Pluses? Some freedoms, internet,greatest entertainment, assortment
of
> > > > information, foods, music in the world, and Super Bowl and
> > > > a general outline of a system that is probably better then most
places
> > but
> > > > certainly not near all the places in the world
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > believe the US stocks to be frauds. Its a shell game, with the
> insiders
> > > and brokerages and everyone reacting faster then you. Once you are in
> > > though, they just take them down ( at least when the percentage long
or
> > > short get to be a certain point)or up opposite you. Hundreds of trades
,
> > > where even Motley Fools said 90 percent of investors lose in stocks.
> Says
> > > allot about our system . Its not what we were led to believe, but  it
is
> > > unfortunately the very worse where stock trading and horse track
> gambling
> > is much worse then odds indicate. The rule of them to follow, is once
your
> > money goes in especially big money the stock starts to dive and the
horse
> > automatically loses more times then odds indicate. That's all to know
> based
> > on everyone I know who played the market or horses ( no winner). No
> > different then any area in the world, cause we are
> > > controlled very good . I read one study that said the transference of
> > wealth
> > > from average investors to insiders and whoever controls market makers
> and
> > > brokerages has approached the Trillions. Even so if they tell you
stocks
> > > went up big last year you will believe it.cause the tv and media
control
> > what you believe Dems or Republicans make no
> > > difference, its a scam. You have to be virtually super rich to run for
> > > election or able to play the politics game for long time.to get
> anywhere.
> > Sooo many
> > > problems in world and this country wants the world to know we have a
> > better way? It could be if democracy really worked but it don't as the
top
> > rich percent control disproportionate amount of the wealth and the
average
> > person is losing their savings . I assume when we stem violence
overseas,
> we
> > forget that there are more killings in our own country due to violence
> then
> > whatever terrorism there was. Does this mean to end terror war? I don't
> know
> > but it does mean we better fix what is broke hee before we tell everyone
> > here we have it so great. The news media totally ignore the amount of
> asthma
> > our kids need but write about some movie star or baseball player
whatever
> > chance we get. Whoever said this is freedom is nuts.What a world
> > > , what a world.
> > > . stocks are manipulated, rich keep getting richer, millions afraid of
> > > violence
> > > which seems to be at least just as bad as the terrorism from abroad.
> > > Millions just about making ends meet. Obesity  and asthma at record
> levels
> > .
> > > And our tv stations hire  models who paint a pretty picture of it
all...
> > the
> > > power of the news media to tell you lies . Everyone
> > > is a notch away from being addicted or sick or a victim of something .
> > This
> > > is not a free country but hell , if your happy in spite of all this,
you
> > > deserve to spread it around cause you have learned to decipher the
> > negatives from your world real good or as I say , you learned to live in
> > denial.
> > >
> > Ps. someone told me perhaps this is how many markets is set up , not
only
> in
> > USA. I responded I don't know about there but I do know about here, and
> here
> > its a set up to lose.
> >
> >
> "gesta" <gesta@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:LgSHd.9375$av2.8763@trndny02...
> > From: "mcs" <mcs@yahoo.com>
> > Newsgroups:
> > alt.activism,alt.poetry,alt.poetry,soc.culture.jewish,alt.politics
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: Negative feelings about everything.
> >
> >
> > > I believe the US stocks to be frauds. Its a shell game, with the
> insiders
> > > and brokerages and everyone reacting faster then you. Once you are in
> > > though, they just take them down ( at least when the percentage long
or
> > > short get to be a certain point)or up opposite you. Hundreds of trades
,
> > > where even Motley Fools said 90 percent of investors lose in stocks.
> Says
> > > allot about our system . Its not what we were led to believe, but  it
is
> > > unfiortunately the very worse where stock trading and horse track
> gambling
> > is much worse then odds indicate. The rule of them to follow, is once
your
> > money goes in especially big money the stock starts to dive and the
horse
> > automatically loses more times then odds indicate. Thats all to know
based
> > on everyone I know who played the market or horses ( no winner). No
> > different then any area in the world, cause we are
> > > controlled very good . I read one study that said the transference of
> > wealth
> > > from average investors to insiders and whoever controls market makers
> and
> > > brokerages has approached the Trillions. Even so if they tell you
stocks
> > > went up big last year you will believe it.cause the tv and media
control
> > what you believe Dems or Republicans make no
> > > difference, its a scam. You have to be virtually super rich to run for
> > > election or able to play the politics game for long time.to get
> anywhere.
> > Sooo many
> > > problems in world and this country wants the world to know we have a
> > better way? It could be if democracy really worked but it dont as the
top
> > rich percent control disaproportiate amount of the wealth and the
average
> > person is losing their savings . I assume when we stem violence
overseas,
> we
>
> >
> >
> "Gary J. English" <nospam@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:3mph015albin6i4un9i3e1an0u4ku2q2fa@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 05:37:39 GMT, "mcs" <mcs@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > You really are a dimwit, posting this run-on crap in;
> >
> > phl.housing,pa.politics,ny.politics,md.politics,alt.politics
> >
> > What, no pa.environment?  an appropriate newsgroup to post & whine in.
> >
> > Get a life.
> > Get moving........out of Philly to cleaner air......
> >
> > >and people are worried about a discolored teeth? When the weather
people
> say
> > >beautiful day when the air is unhealthy you know they ae trying to kill
> you
> > >off. But good old Edy is not worried about vice president Edwards said
> last
> > >night, he is worried about the freaking Eagles football club.
> > >In case your new here , Philly air is one of the worse in the country.
AS
> > >few as five years ago our air never came close to being moderate in
> winter
> > >( only in summer) . Moderate level reading incidentally is when some
> > >scientists is enought to call premature death . Our air now has more
days
> in
> > >moderate then good and in fact days and days of UNHEALTHY as in
WARNINGS
> > >which our news whores don't tell you about. This is the air your
choosing
> to
> > >give your kids and not fight like helll complaining about? You worried
> about
> > >braces but not one of the most important things for poeple? The quality
> of
> > >the air? Don't let news media dictate what is important. In this day
and
> age
> > >you must , look out for you and your family. Complain to Congress and
> Senate
> > >that you want your kids to live in safe surroundings. Our govt has an
> > >obligation to protect us not HARM US. Try to get a copy of a tape ,
> former
> > >vice Presidential Candidate Edwards told the Rhode Island Democrats
last
> > >night in a speech. Bush only cares about rich and he is leaving working
> > >class with ill health and record debt.
> > >
> >
>
>
> "Gary J. English" <nospam@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:nrph01tmfot338biei1b2egb6f6ih2bto2@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 05:52:27 GMT, "mcs" <mcs@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > You really are a dimwit, posting this run-on crap in pa.politics
> >
> > What, no pa.environment?  an appropriate newsgroup to post & whine in.
> >
> > Get a life.
> > Get moving........out of Philly to cleaner air......
> >
> > >and people are worried about a discolored tooth? When the weather
people
> say
> > >beautiful day when the air is unhealthy you know they ae trying to kill
> you
> > >off. But good old Edy Rendell is not worried about what vice president
> > >Edwards said last
> > >night, he is worried about the freaking Eagles football club.
> > >In case your new here , Philly air is one of the worse in the country.
AS
> > >few as five years ago our air never came close to being moderate in
> winter
> > >( only in summer) . Moderate level reading incidentally is when some
> > >scientists is enough to cause  premature death . Our air now has more
> days
> > >in
> > >moderate then good and in fact, more days of UNHEALTHY as in WARNINGS
> > >which our news whores don't tell you about then ever before and its not
> even
> > >summer. This is the air your choosing to
> > >give your kids and not fight like helll complaining about? The air is
now
> > >becoming not only bad its becoming a hell hole.You worried about
> > >braces but not one of the most important things for poeple? forget
clean
> air
> > >, how about acceptable ?  The quality of
> > >the air is being dumped on by Bush who allowed the coal companies and
car
> > >companies to delay implementation of cleaner air? Don't let news media
> > >dictate what is important. In this day and age
> > >you must , look out for you and your family. Complain to Congress and
> Senate
> > >that you want your kids to live in safe surroundings.That Bush doesnt'
> have
> > >a fking mandate to poison you or your loved ones. This is like we are
now
> > >becoming a target from our govt and if they are warning you , how bad
you
> > >think it really is?  Our govt has an
> > >obligation to protect us not HARM US. Try to get a copy of a tape ,
> former
> > >vice Presidential Candidate Edwards told the Rhode Island Democrats
last
> > >night in a speech. Bush only cares about rich and he is leaving working
> > >class with ill health and record debt. Bush and govt is literally
killing
> > >you and your kids. This guy ought to be tried for treason NOW
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> "Gary J. English" <nospam@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:3mph015albin6i4un9i3e1an0u4ku2q2fa@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 05:37:39 GMT, "mcs" <mcs@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > You really are a dimwit, posting this run-on crap in;
> >
> > phl.housing,pa.politics,ny.politics,md.politics,alt.politics
> >
> > What, no pa.environment?  an appropriate newsgroup to post & whine in.
> >
> > Get a life.
> > Get moving........out of Philly to cleaner air......
> >
> > >and people are worried about a discolored teeth? When the weather
people
> say
> > >beautiful day when the air is unhealthy you know they ae trying to kill
> you
> > >off. But good old Edy is not worried about vice president Edwards said
> last
> > >night, he is worried about the freaking Eagles football club.
> > >In case your new here , Philly air is one of the worse in the country.
AS
> > >few as five years ago our air never came close to being moderate in
> winter
> > >( only in summer) . Moderate level reading incidentally is when some
> > >scientists is enought to call premature death . Our air now has more
days
> in
> > >moderate then good and in fact days and days of UNHEALTHY as in
WARNINGS
> > >which our news whores don't tell you about. This is the air your
choosing
> to
> > >give your kids and not fight like helll complaining about? You worried
> about
> > >braces but not one of the most important things for poeple? The quality
> of
> > >the air? Don't let news media dictate what is important. In this day
and
> age
> > >you must , look out for you and your family. Complain to Congress and
> Senate
> > >that you want your kids to live in safe surroundings. Our govt has an
> > >obligation to protect us not HARM US. Try to get a copy of a tape ,
> former
> > >vice Presidential Candidate Edwards told the Rhode Island Democrats
last
> > >night in a speech. Bush only cares about rich and he is leaving working
> > >class with ill health and record debt.
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>