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1 total messages Started by mcs Mon, 02 Jul 2007 16:12
Its all about air pollution in Philly
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Author: mcs
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 16:12
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while the air quality was generally much better the last few days, it still 
hasn't equalled good for a full 24 hours, in months. while many people 
desire and get good air for themselves and families and know of the good 
that can happen because of it.
For the people here, I urge all staticians to demand to compare everything 
from sleep medications doled out here to cancer and asthma and health care 
output and especially lung function , to all residents of this areas for 
more then 20 years and compare to people in other cities who ate the same 
things ( if possible) and had clean air,. that would prove the damages that 
are happening now.
Well, why people don't default to suspicion and at least worrying about the 
overall affects from bad air for so long , beats me? I have a copy of an 
editorial which talks about birds diminishing in PA and we already should 
know about bees are dying and this person talks about the hundreds of trees 
she sees dying across pa.. It ws in last Tues Philadelphia inquirer letter 
to editor.. In addition..
I think companies advertising here for COPD, for lung centers , for delivery 
of oxygen and nebulizers and my own experience being here so long gives the 
best indication of what is happening here . Even if its as bad as three 
other places, that can be worse then what it was a few years ago. Do you 
know what fortune five hundred companies know, in order to spend millions 
for advertising here. I have not been in any city that approaches the number 
of commercials for illness here and its no accident. When my lungs consrict 
so often and I started to see other links I knew this was something 
incredible. When I said of ways to determine how bad this is for people over 
time or if its a new reaction to more co2 or soot from growing coal 
production, your families lives lost of health might be at stake. I think 
the overall effects are bad , very bad and we are not told how bad. If your 
objective, I would urge you to think the power politicians and energy 
companies have in shaping your lives and media completely coopted by the 
highest payoffs. I think there is no one to protect you like maybe in the 
past. I think if studies were done, verified by many researchers by going 
into hosptial records, by looking at new stats and compare two different 
populations rate of illness and health. it would prove what I would be 
saying. The longer you live here the greater chance of lost health compared 
to most areas with cleaner air ( and those people ate the same things). To 
me the damage is incredible how often my lungs contstict and have to listen 
to commercial after commercial for health care. I think if people got 
together to at least determine damage, you or I wouldn't have to guess . Of 
course to me its not guessing. I am guaranteeing you now, if the last few 
months are any indication, the longer people stay in air that is not good, 
the much more chance, your giving family lost health forever in 
PHIladelphia. I believe that with everything I have .
Now people are talking about better cities.. surprise. there are lots of 
better cities, don't wait till the damage is done, like me. Get a clue.. You 
might know people living longer, even still walking past 60 but in other 
cities so much better things are happening. Our politicians don't care..
I tried to get some people to write to neighbors, no one responded. Your 
going to be left with huge immigrant population who don't know about 
pollution and probably more people unable to pay their taxes here 
eventually. More crime and pollution, thats what families have to look 
forward here too. There are good things but the bad things can kill you too 
often here.the difference, Iasked MR Sperlings about data for asthma.. No 
replies so until then I trust my chart and instincts and the drug companies 
ability to rational demand for Spirvia and nebulizers and Lung centers and 
my inability and difficulty breathing and F rated air and incidentally. I 
don't think you mentioned the coal dust called soot which recently we were 
described as getting in seperate category.
as for the epa...I would trust them with one thing, giving air rating 
numbers. They have proved time and again to not protect americans and our 
conservative Surpreme Court has said so!!. Moderate pollution has been shown 
time and again to produce illness, so why do they call it mild
I trust this recent chart much more.>>>>>>>> Other things to worry about and 
make me to believe my instincts, Pa number 2 in asthma, Pa. number 3 in co2, 
Even without these linksI was telling people years ago about what I was 
seeing. I was in Dr. Office and people were lined up asking for just asthma 
meds. please just get the marketing from drug companies in major stations in 
major cities. I would be astounded to see Philly less then the city with 
most advertisements for breathing problems and I think here again it might 
be conjecture if you don't get that data,. but all these things show much 
cause of concern. I assure you drug companies ability to advertise so much 
before any news person talks about why shows much concern also.



http://www.asthmacapital.com/asthma_capitals2006.pdf
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>>>>>>>> 2007
>>>>>>>> http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=79126

I think the people who made the study were incredibly enough from this 
region . Temple? Again till you get compartive studies for hard to get data. 
its all a matter of demographics or which study you want to believe. Show me 
which city gets more days of air that don't reach good ( for 24 hours) then 
other cities.. I have compared, although not marked it down.. Philly has to 
be on the list of top three. with out most days of good air. ... Until you 
can quanatatively compare the health of two different people from two 
different regions of air quality, who ate the same things, its all going to 
be somewhat the difference between bad and worse and some conjecture. I call 
it the largest conspiracy to hide things that cause illness in the US today. 
I grew up and I saw a few commercials for excedrin. Now its almost 
unbelievable all the commercials for health care , hosptials, copd, asthm , 
nebulizers, power chairs, health plans. and diabetes drugs.If this doesn't 
give good cause for objective people to worry nothing does. ( yeah I spelled 
a few words wrong here got to go). We are getting poisoned here.06-29-2007 
10:54 AMddelorenzoQuote: 
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