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Particle Pollution and Murder in US? Freedom? of Press?
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Author: mcs
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 01:20
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Subject: PARTICLE POLLUTION IS NOT EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW


> PARTICLE POLLUTION IS KILLING PEOPLE NOTHING DONE
> IN MY CITY ALSO WE ARE ON PACE FOR 500 PLUS MURDERS this year even more 
> then last year, In addition to most asthma, respiratory disease and one of 
> the worse mortality rates,  we have more murders then  ALMOST 1/4 OF ALL 
> US
> DEATHS IN IRAQ so far...!!!!!!
> WE HAVE A WAR GOING ON IN SOME CITIES AND WE ARE BEING POISONED AT THE 
> SAME
> TIME AND ITS ALL IGNORED, TALK ABOUT FREEDOM This is our country?
> If after everything else
> is similar I am willing to bet we still are at a distinct advantage
> healthwise by having this pollution. ?This is one reason so many people
> around the world care about this and global warming and clean energy. They
> seldom go after the consequences of pollution but they do about global
> warming and that makes it eaven scarier for me to understand why they 
> don't
> want to deal with reality of possibly being poisoned by polllution. They
> almost have this level of concern masquerated by global warming so they
> don't have to go over the ramifications of pollution
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>
>
> stay tuned for real links to damages!!!!!!
>
>
>
>
> pression.recovery,sci.environment
>> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 7:58 PM
>> Subject: Pollution and its affects on life are REAL
>>
>>
>>> the greatest conspiracy in the history of the US is going on now. Making
>>> it seem not important that some people get moderate amount of 
>>> particulate
>>> pollution every other day at least and no one doing anything to stop it
>>> in
>>> spite of my claim that its poisoning people and if science wanted to,
>>> could be proven if its not already proven. . The effects I assert is
>>> poisonous and I beg and I 'am saying it can be proven,much more. If your
>>> objective and have loved one on the east coast or downwind from the most
>>> pollution, or coal plants I urge people  in science and medicine to do
>>> comparison studies between those downwind from pollutionand who ate
>>> healthy things and those in non polluted areas. . The pharmacies know
>>> what
>>> the result are because even before I surprised people with links( in 
>>> some
>>> obsecure site)  to most asthma and respiratory deaths in my area ,t hey
>>> were advertising for lung centers and asthma meds in exceess to any area
>>> of the country I have ever been it.. The executives of car companies and
>>> gov officials who allow the toxic combination of diesel and coal and car
>>> exhaust with global warming effects are in effect allowing the poisoning
>>> of a population. I will promise to God, that I dearly think this and 
>>> this
>>> conspiracy is not talked about. I think the damages are way
>>> underestimated
>>> in fact. Over and over I see the data and if people died five percent
>>> faster that might be important but in some studies they are dying 30
>>> percent faster!!! Guess where they live longer and whey they die faster?
>>> Where are the lawyers? I have seen babies  and elderly and people with
>>> asthma struggle to breathe on moderate or worse days of particulate
>>> pollution over and over whether they knew why , I have seen older people
>>> also struggle , and exercise less in 10 ks in cities with most
>>> particulates. There are many ways to test my hypothesis, in addition to
>>> standard tread mill tests for conditioning. I think beyond the links 
>>> that
>>> show we are getting more respiratory disease, they can show conclusively
>>> more damages too from other things. maybe heart disease and cancer..
>>> Generations of families and people have lost productive lives thru
>>> cancers
>>> that might have completely been nullified if they had lived in pollution
>>> free areas. The degree that is ignored and where media and politicians
>>> ignore all sane correlations and unproductive stats in my area is beyond
>>> incredible and it borders on mass murder and conspiracy.  The media
>>> simply
>>> doesn't answer me when I ask why this is not important? Its almost
>>> unbelievable.
>>> The epa while doing a  good job, to have put up a website to monitor the
>>> air has failed in determining the level at which this air causes harm, I
>>> believe at least. . Babies are being poisoned , kids are not graduating
>>> and worse then everything a populations and millions of people,
>>> generations of people , I assert are in  in much worse health then those
>>> in clean air and I bet my life it can be proven if scientists want to. 
>>> In
>>> my area people stop exercising in mass at around 69,its not who I know
>>> who
>>> gets sick in their fifties and sixties, its how MANY! , in Hawaii, tens
>>> of
>>> thousands exercise at higher age. People like   ex Presidents and Ernest
>>> Gallo die in decent health in great areas of clean air at age 90s but
>>> people like our ex football players Reggie White and Mayor Rizzo dies
>>> much
>>> earlier. I am taken back time and again how many people are on 
>>> disability
>>> in this area at a much earlier age in addition to rising asthma which
>>> keeps rising. Of course I am not surprised. People have told me once in
>>> Philly especially on bad air days they too have smelled the bad air
>>> immediately ,.The correlations though of just bad smell , is not even 
>>> the
>>> beginning of the concern, its the cancers and early morbidity and
>>> respiratory diseases. of accumulated ravages of too many days of 
>>> exposure
>>> of particulate pollution. Its the tens of thousands of violent crimes,
>>> its
>>> the lost optimism of in this city turned cynical,  and its distrust 
>>> about
>>> what is happening to people while politicians ignore one of the biggest
>>> conspitacies of all time, Every year a politician talks about crime and
>>> building sports staidiums and taxes,while crime gets worse and our 
>>> health
>>> gets worse. Look at the stats for people who get many days of high
>>> particulate pollution in last paragraphs.. I am betting the people
>>> responsible will get away with it without anyone suing them or studies
>>> made to show the discrepency in health and longevity. which I claim can
>>> show the disparity between people with pollution and without.  People 
>>> are
>>> being poisoned and the greatest thing to enhance life is not often
>>> accesible for these populations, clean air . The damages I assert can be
>>> proven. This is the biggest dosing of poison to certain populations
>>> without ever getting compensated in history. This is the most outrageous
>>> hiddeous conspiracy in the US history and I hope to God just like people
>>> who US claims are terorists, they some day are made to pay , in this 
>>> life
>>> or next.
>>>If I am not mistaken there are laws on the books to do harm to
>> people. If a govt policy does it or if an individulal does it to another
>> person.or whoever conspired to allow it to happen.
>> If moving is  only criteria to get away from being lied to or poisoned,or
>> frombad things, then only people rich enough to move will be able to 
>> evade
>> poisonings or bad things and thus the rest are pawns to the rich. Have 
>> you
>> ever read the constitution? I think most people in America might expect
>> obvious different climates and degrees of violent crime and school
>> systems,
>> but not expect to be poisoned by pollution , where you really can't 
>> escape
>> and expect people to know of the dangers. If people were informed
>> universally or if my association or assertions were shown on the news or
>> media  as proof or known consequences and dangers then govt or people 
>> were
>> asked to choose, that would be one thing. (not good agreed) but when they
>> are not and still poisoned that a conspiracy to committ harm to certain
>> people , against the law Its the expectation that all people have certain
>> rights and one of them Is to be protected from undue harm..No State shall
>> make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities
>> of
>> citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of
>> life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any
>> person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
>>
>>
>> Pharmacies and asthma drug makers know of damage they advertise
>>>>> for COPD and asthma  and Lung Centers meds all day and night in this
>>>>> city,
>>>>> yet hardly any
>>>>> story why we need it? Hoho if you don't think news isn't controlled or
>>>>> coopted then I would say your naive
>>>>> In addition to advertising for effects from lung illness, The fact 
>>>>> that
>>>>> our
>>>>> tv stations talk about health effects of  one study on
>>>>> vitamin e  or a car seat recall but ignore that we are number one or
>>>>> two
>>>>> in
>>>>> the nation for
>>>>> respiratory deaths, more asthma then most every city (Thats EVERY CITY
>>>>> in
>>>>> AMERICA), rated f by American Lung Association and bottom sixth 
>>>>> percent
>>>>> in
>>>>> air quality from
>>>>> Sperlings list of cities , and now or
>>>>> soon almost more days then any city in the US for particulate 
>>>>> pollution
>>>>> on
>>>>> airnow.org
>>>>> without getting good days of air .. shows me this is a conspiracy that
>>>>> goes
>>>>> unrivaled in modern history. Show me comparison studies, like people
>>>>> living
>>>>> on congested streets with lots of traffic and compare their health to
>>>>> people
>>>>> with no
>>>>> traffic in low pollution towns, or . Compare people who are bus drives
>>>>> who
>>>>> stay
>>>>> hours behind other bus drivers and rate their health to average
>>>>> american
>>>>> without this . Ten other studies could show damage, for instance a
>>>>> neighborhood with many fast food restaurants and cars idling , the
>>>>> effects
>>>>> of health on neighbors homeowners health... bordering the fast food
>>>>> restaurants.  No one cares to protect people equally from real damage.
>>>>> I
>>>>> would like to see the number of people who ate the same things and got
>>>>> Cancers
>>>>> directly related to the  differeing amounts of pollution in their
>>>>> neighborhood! Do you see the studies.
>>>>> The epa actually has a way to rate our air although i think they
>>>>> underestimate thedamage and the levels at which human health is
>>>>> compromised.
>>>>> I think human health begins to be compromised in Good air zone towards
>>>>> the
>>>>> mild zone. At Mild zone my lung automatically constrict. There were
>>>>> more
>>>>> then two studies that have mysteriously disappeared that showed
>>>>> exercising
>>>>> in this moderate level could quite likely do more harm then good.And
>>>>> millions of people are breathing air that is killing them faster then
>>>>> others
>>>>> but they don't seem to be found... anymore on the net.  Is there a
>>>>> study
>>>>> that says its healthy and if not and kids are getting this air 80
>>>>> percent
>>>>> of
>>>>> the time , is there a magical way they are protected from polluters? 
>>>>> Of
>>>>> course not, they are being poisoned ! So when tv says to go out and
>>>>> exercise
>>>>> even if peoople might be harmed whose responsibility is it to protect
>>>>> people? When weather people say warning level pollution days are
>>>>> beautiful
>>>>> is there any responisbilityto tell the truth to viewers ? Why
>>>>> don'tprotecting our own people as important as paying oil companies
>>>>> subsidies for oil exploration?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> amazing, I feel the pain and its not my fault!
>>>>> Collectively if and I say IF they wanted to prove more lethal damage
>>>>> they
>>>>> could. I have written Universities to ask to show levels of health
>>>>> between
>>>>> two
>>>>> populations who ate the same thing but breathed big differences in
>>>>> particle
>>>>> pollution. They hung up on me. The literally don't care! Its
>>>>> amazing.Try
>>>>> asking news stations why they advertise for asthma meds but don't tell
>>>>> viewers the horrible rates in our town.
>>>>>
>>>>> in the meantime people will suffer knowingly or most hopeful to
>>>>>>> politicians,
>>>>>>> unknowingly
>>>>>>> I listed some things that we have that are horrible for a city, how
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> one not see how things are connected, yet people like to argue the
>>>>>>> air
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> not bad.
>>>>>> American Lung Association rates our city an F for air quality
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Number one or two in asthma and asthma doctors, and death by
>>>>>>> asthmaHere
>>>>>>> are the most recent links , of cities with most asthma,
>>>>>> Here is the link to 2006 most asthma link
>>>>>> http://www.asthmacapital.com/asthma_capitals2006.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2007
>>>>>> http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=79126
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Number one or two the number of days our air reaches moderate levels
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> kind that one study says does more harm then good if you exercise in
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> the kind which automatically constricts lungs and a host of other
>>>>>>> horrible
>>>>>>> things ( the fact that they even did the studies surprises me)
>>>>>>> F rating my American Lung Association
>>>>>>> The most depressed city in the nation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1359647/posts
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After adjusting for age distribution of the population, female
>>>>>>> mortality
>>>>>>> was 20 percent higher!!!! then average for the US and Male mortality
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> 33
>>>>>>> percent higher then average! Is this healthy ? Or just a little bad?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.phila.gov/health/hp2010/P...emperature.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bottom ten percent for air quality, in Sperlings list of cities.
>>>>>> Even low levels or particulates which we get more often then most
>>>>>> every
>>>>>> city in the US causes elevated risks of stroke
>>>>>> Personally unlike some have said, I don't think the stats can get 
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> worse here
>>>>>> http://www.americanheart.org/present...tifier=3045419
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>and a photo of my air filter after 29 days in air that had 18 
>>>>>>>moderate
>>>>>>>particulate days out of 29 or worse
>>>>>
>>>>> http://s135.photobucket.com/albums/q141/stevephotobucket/?action=view&current=IMG_0118.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is link to pollution and early death
> http://www.kait8.com/Global/story.asp?S=4935559
>>>>>>> We have NJ doing things , mandating emission control and California
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> going to stop using coal near their cities and
>>>>>>> other towns get upset if they have three warning days, of air, here
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> ignore it. The news media totally ignores all these correlations. 
>>>>>>> Now
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> ask you why? Kids I urge your parents to ask politicians how you or
>>>>>>> family is
>>>>>>> to stay healthy in air not conducive to exercise? Can anyone show me
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> link or magical way of doing that ?
>>>>>>> how its done? How do you accept the possibility that when all areas
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the country health is improving , in Philly its actually amongst the
>>>>>>> worse in several areas? Is there a magic reason for this? or for 
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> be ignored?
>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "MCS" <mcs@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:%qlGh.550$wc6.527@trndny05...
>>> face it there is a conspiracy to keep particulate problems from people.
>>> Either it causes death and illness like to me and others or it doesnt.
>>> Two
>>> giant studies said it did. no longer have the links. It either is bad to
>>> breathe or exercise or its not. I have yet to find a doctor back up 
>>> thats
>>> its healthy in writing. At most they don't answer. So the real 
>>> conspiracy
>>> is govt is afraid to tell millions of people who are most at risk to 
>>> move
>>> or the implications so people just are being killed off if they can't
>>> move
>>> I will ask anyone here, it either causes damage or it doesn't and if not
>>> why is it the places that have   high pollution correlating bad links.
>>> One
>
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