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More and more days without good air , keeps increasing and people aging 
faster here , more asthma and heart disease then average and not much is 
done except to say we are making progress?  Just another day out of the good 
zone. Moderate is the zone that is killing people and they call it 
moderate..>
>
>> First off I think its important to state I love my country and I hope I
>> can
>> contribute in  making it better without people thinking I am unfairly
>> complaining for the sake of complaining.cause I really believe what I
>> write
>> is important and true. I am sorry I have to offend some people but tis
>> obvious, this is , or might be the difference between life and death and
>> right
>> and wrong.
>>> not maybe, absolutely.  The companies who pump this stuff know of the
>>> dangers from their pollution, the govt
>>> knows it, the only people who don't want you to know it is the news
>>> media
>>> ,
>>> the polluters, the President,
>>> and Supreme Court and some in Congress who ignore all obvious links to
>>> the damage.to support the richest companies at the expense of families
>>> and countless lives. How is this fair or right or good for a free
>>> society ? You figure this out, I don't know why pollution is affecting
>>> so many and me more now  or whether global
>>> warming is making it worse ( probable), all I know its happening and its
>>> adding to wrong links by govt not caring to do more . Our govt. says
>>> others are doing  the wrong thing  for their when they allie with
>>> terrorists .We are setting wrong models too ,when  the lines are crossed
>>> between safety and sanity  I say the links to
>>> pollution and ill health or worse : lower longevity
>>> for
>>> families that are closest to the pollution are provable without one iota
>>> of
>>> doubt.Just because allot of pollution maynot be affecting you , don't
>>> mean its not happening to others.
> Here is a conversation I had with someone in a newsgroup
>
> They can mandate better fuel effecincy
>>
>> They have done this on a phased in basis.  The only way to make huge
>> gains
>> in technology is if the consumer funds it by buying it.  No other way can
>> generate the cash needed for significant large scale improvements.
> No other way? The hope ws that the gov would increase the mandatory miles
> per gallon all future cars needed to have I  think .
>
>
>
>>
>>> better mix of corn or ethanol
>>
>> New cars are already mandated to be compatible with such fuels. However,
>> very few gas stations carry it.  Again, it has to be consumer driven to
>> get stations to want to install it.  If its mandated and consumers won't
>> pay it guess what happens?
>
> . Its mixed in already? Whats the problem?  What consumers have objected?
> Now its possible the costs might have  rises since this alternative has
> become
> available and gas prices has fallen, but perhaps this is why gas prices
> have
> fallen. Two good reasons to keep adding this to the fuel.: Cleaner burning
> and
>  lower prices, a no brainer.
> They just need to mix more of it..
>
>
>
>>>, faster clean up of  smoke stack pollution standards
>>
>> Already mandated in a phased in plan.  So I assume you want that phasing
>> sped up.  How much does your plan cost?
> Do you know how much pollution costs in lost productivity and ill health
> in  peoples lives?
> Seriously, if we are not being told of the consequences or the levels of
> pollution, I
> don't think you can know of the true costs  and effects pollution has on
> people in lost
> health and productivity .  This is where progressive governments differ
> then
> ours and its because the people in charge often  has a mindset of  doing
> more for alternaties and not defaulting with the status quo with oil
> paying
> for campaigns over  lives of its people. Just because it may not affect
> you
> now or yet don't mean its not affecting others big time like me or others.
> .
> Global warming is a huge issue around the world and again the people in
> the Bush
> administration don't want to do its part in even accepting part of Kyoto
> treaty . As the true costs of this one sided reliance on oil and
> production
> companies take its toll, people will die and other countries will make
> changes faster. . T he cost  in cleaning up our environment  now, is
> minimal
> compared to lost productivity but to be honest if we are fighting to stop
> terror, trying to protect our people from lost longevity and illness from
> pollution when
> experts say its possible, should at least be just as important..Like I
> said
> the overall effects from this toxic poisoning is clearly not evident  or
> being told , to the
> public and many people don't have the time to wait for ever increasing
> lethal associations and studies to sure to come. , but from the way all
> the damages are NOT neatly put
> together and packaged like our concerns with  someone in office having sex
> or  bad spinanch or even smoking, one wonders why not the same concern for
> this important happening. I can tell you what they are hiding, our
> dependence on this is
> without any doubt causing tens of thousands of deaths and illness that
> would
> make all terror look like a picnic. . Almost whatever  costs  to clean up
> pollution now and in the future is a win win scenario down the line. The
> problem is you don't want to promote the tests to find out how much is
> being
> lost do you now? . The potential or real loss in productivity and value
> for
> years of life is huge  compared to  the / value energy companies save in
> doing it piece meal slowly . I thought the govt was here to protect its
> citizens not poison them and protect the people who paid for their
> campaigns! In my mind this is one reason why the poor can't make the
> proper
> choices, why people do the wrong things, because we don't have a govt that
> sponsers the right values. ....the money now to clean the smoke
> stacks.faster is money used for the right things.  . The problem is they
> are
> hiding the damages, the studies have not been made to show why cleaning up
> the stacks are important,  and govt incredibly enough knows about it but
> does not want to do more. For many govts around the world theydon't have
> the
> impetus or money to sponser alternatives faster but we do. Some of the
> smartest people in the world has said we are killing the planet. If the
> studies were made to show the true consequences and people were told they
> were dying years if not decades sooner because of this poison there would
> be
> more emphasis in trying to eradicate the causes faster because afterall we
> are the richest or one of the richest nations on earth. We can send people
> in billion dollar space stations but allow the slaughter of its people
> because energy companies fuel the people in powers campaign .. A crime of
> mass proportion and like Terrorism , they will have to answer to this
> someday...because when we do the wrong things it connects to doing the
> wrong
> things in other ways. Finally I am not an expert in indentifying how we
> are
> suppose to deal with global warming but it doesn't take a brain scientists
> if you had to breathe this air everyday ) to know someone should
> immediately
> do more to stop the poisoning of its people that these toxics are most
> assuredly doing.To do otherwise is allowing holocausts to go on thats how
> sure I am of the damages and consequences...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If the studies don't
>>> conclusively prove it  now, it can be proved. Anyone want to see my
>>> accumulated soot and black soot accumulated via a furnance filter from
>>> only
>>> 25 days of living in moderate
>>> amounts of particulates/.I dare anyone to compare our peoples overall
>>> health
>>> to those in clean  areas who ate the same things.Its like living in two
>>> different centuries, one with more health and optimism and the other
>>> mean,
>>> dependent on medications and hospitals, crime cyniscim  and ill health.
>>> But
>>> its the  condition of health between the two different peoples, that
>>> would
>>> show
>>> that polluters and govt policy is allowing the  murdering of families or
>>> cutting short their lives or health and  nothing  is being done to
>>> protect
>>> them equally!
>>> I
>>> can think of ten more tests to prove it.,\
>>> Please send my following opinion and links to real facts to your
>>> Congressman
>>> and ask how the greatest country in the world can get away with
>>> poisoning
>>> inner city youth and millions of people without a thing done to protect
>>> them.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it possible?
>>> Mr. Bush get a clue, side with safety , not poisoning people.
>>> Coming back from , Boston or New York I am often taken back and my lungs
>>> constrict as I head
>>> to Philly yet no one cares. This is totally involuntary reflex due the
>>> poisons. Can you imagine families having to put up with this for decades
>>> and
>>> it affects another area of their body , one not so obvious?
>>> Ok? Now you or anyone tell me why this isn't the most important things
>>> in
>>> people lives right now... MASS MURDER by oil , coal and car companies
>>> and
>>> who will ever compensate those that will lose their health and lives and
>>> fiances to it? There are many many ways to prove all this beyond the few
>>> studies on web and epa findings and American Lung Associations ratings
>>> of
>>> F.
>>> Where are the attorneys? Why isn't more being done. What I do hear is
>>> its
>>> not as bad as it once was, and its a beautiful day , and 23 different
>>> medications to treat sleep disorders and asthma and allergy after they
>>> poison you .We get commercials for inhalers and oxygen and not a worry
>>> in
>>> the
>>> world why people age and die faster in these polluted hell holes ..
>>> <info@economicdemocracy.org> wrote in message
>>> news:1158681407.782351.246170@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>> The denial industry
>>>
>>> For years, a network of fake citizens' groups and bogus scientific
>>> bodies has been claiming that science of global warming is
>>> inconclusive. They set back action on climate change by a decade. But
>>> who funded them? Exxon's involvement is well known, but not the strange
>>> role of Big Tobacco. In the first of three extracts from his new book,
>>> George Monbiot tells a bizarre and shocking new story
>>>
>>> Tuesday September 19, 2006
>>> The Guardian
>>>
>>> Exxon station in California
>>> 'The impacts of the climate-change deniers sponsored by Exxon have been
>>> felt all over the world.' Photograph: AP
>>>
>>> ExxonMobil is the world's most profitable corporation. Its sales now
>>> amount to more than $1bn a day. It makes most of this money from oil,
>>> and has more to lose than any other company from efforts to tackle
>>> climate change. To safeguard its profits, ExxonMobil needs to sow doubt
>>> about whether serious action needs to be taken on climate change. But
>>> there are difficulties: it must confront a scientific consensus as
>>> strong as that which maintains that smoking causes lung cancer or that
>>> HIV causes Aids. So what's its strategy?
>>>
>>> Article continues
>>> The website Exxonsecrets.org, using data found in the company's
>>> official documents, lists 124 organisations that have taken money from
>>> the company or work closely with those that have. These organisations
>>> take a consistent line on climate change: that the science is
>>> contradictory, the scientists are split, environmentalists are
>>> charlatans, liars or lunatics, and if governments took action to
>>> prevent global warming, they would be endangering the global economy
>>> for no good reason. The findings these organisations dislike are
>>> labelled "junk science". The findings they welcome are labelled "sound
>>> science".
>>>
>>> Among the organisations that have been funded by Exxon are such
>>> well-known websites and lobby groups as TechCentralStation, the Cato
>>> Institute and the Heritage Foundation. Some of those on the list have
>>> names that make them look like grassroots citizens' organisations or
>>> academic bodies: the Centre for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global
>>> Change, for example. One or two of them, such as the Congress of Racial
>>> Equality, are citizens' organisations or academic bodies, but the line
>>> they take on climate change is very much like that of the other
>>> sponsored groups. While all these groups are based in America, their
>>> publications are read and cited, and their staff are interviewed and
>>> quoted, all over the world.
>>>
>>> By funding a large number of organisations, Exxon helps to create the
>>> impression that doubt about climate change is widespread. For those who
>>> do not understand that scientific findings cannot be trusted if they
>>> have not appeared in peer-reviewed journals, the names of these
>>> institutes help to suggest that serious researchers are challenging the
>>> consensus.
>>>
>>> This is not to claim that all the science these groups champion is
>>> bogus. On the whole, they use selection, not invention. They will find
>>> one contradictory study - such as the discovery of tropospheric
>>> cooling, which, in a garbled form, has been used by Peter Hitchens in
>>> the Mail on Sunday - and promote it relentlessly. They will continue to
>>> do so long after it has been disproved by further work. So, for
>>> example, John Christy, the author of the troposphere paper, admitted in
>>> August 2005 that his figures were incorrect, yet his initial findings
>>> are still being circulated and championed by many of these groups, as a
>>> quick internet search will show you.
>>>
>>> But they do not stop there. The chairman of a group called the Science
>>> and Environmental Policy Project is Frederick Seitz. Seitz is a
>>> physicist who in the 1960s was president of the US National Academy of
>>> Sciences. In 1998, he wrote a document, known as the Oregon Petition,
>>> which has been cited by almost every journalist who claims that climate
>>> change is a myth.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mass poisoning of people makes 9/11 look like a picnic and Bush is one
>>>> link or cause
>>>> of
>>>> it. We can do moe now, we don't have to pretend we don't know of the
>>>> damage.Some people cared like Christie Whitman and Al Gore and others
>>>> looked away and even promoted this murder policy that is going on. Its
>>>> the point that we know all this, can do more and still don't
>>>> that really gets to me on top of the physical discomfort of being
>>>> choked
>>>> with asthma only on these days and those days are numerous.
>>>> I live it every year in this helll hole. Where over 100 days so far
>>>> with
>>>> air
>>>> out of the good zone. Where my lungs constrict,. where peoples
>>>> atttiudes
>>>> are
>>>> rotten, where drinking and drugging might be appropriate response to
>>>> being
>>>> poisoned, many are jobless and mean spirited  then they tell you about
>>>> our
>>>> crime rate that keeps increasing, but no links to pollution! We
>>>> are being poisoned. If your not affected and many aren't , please
>>>> realize
>>>> many others are.  So many things are affected negatively and the best
>>>> and
>>>> brightest in news and politicians ignore it. They rather talk about
>>>> Iraq.
>>>> Let me tell you something this poisoning makes Iraq and 9/11 look like
>>>> a
>>>> picnic and its because of the oil, and energy lobby and car companies.
>>>> They
>>>> all are going about telling you of changes but chances are for too many
>>>> people it will be too late....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>>>>>Of course they are. Pollution is by definition poison. That's the
>>>>>>>>problem
>>>>> with pollution, it poisons people. DUH!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes but how many people think pollution might have caused their
>>>>> relatives
>>>>> death? Affected their life span ?  Chances are not many and chances
>>>>> are
>>>>> ,
>>>>> at least in my town, they should assume that. So many days the air is
>>>>> horrific here and not a thing said or done. I have been in other
>>>>> places
>>>>> with clean air and its like living in two different centuries almost.
>>>>> Attitudes, crime,  health and total costs for health are or might be
>>>>> different.But most important the actual lives of peoples health are
>>>>> different and many ways to prove it. SSssssssssssoooo many people are
>>>>> losing their life and age and health to pollution and built up of
>>>>> gasses
>>>>> compared to others its almost unbelievable.
>>>>
>>>> We have a street around here called Street Road and come rush hour this
>>>> is
>>>> life a ten mile polluted town akin probably to most polluted places in
>>>> Asia.
>>>> All one might have to do is see how the people who work on this street
>>>> has
>>>> been affected compared to those in clean air to know what kind of
>>>> poison
>>>> people are getting. Not all poisons are equally venomous.
>>>>>
>>>> Maybe you or your friends are old looking and your friend didn't die
>>>> from
>>>> old age, they died
>>>> earlier because of wrongrace, or where you lived and died because Bush
>>>> didn't
>>>> care one iota for your health , and in fact can be argued is
>>>> contributing
>>>> to
>>>> you and your families ill health and death...I can argue the democrats
>>>> didn't care either but we know more now, anyone can add up the
>>>> objective
>>>> data. Anyone can add up the number of prescription for asthma meds and
>>>> compare the stats by area. Anyone can compare the state of health
>>>> between
>>>> people who live in polluted areas and those that don't. The studies so
>>>> far
>>>> are dim for the people in the NE being poisoned. Everyone should be on
>>>> some kind of disability if I am any example of how this toxic air
>>>> affects
>>>> one over time , the head of the EPA thinks is acceptable but
>>>> practically
>>>> ever other expert from his own agency doesn't. How can I give this jerk
>>>> the same choking that he allows me to get? Where people are being
>>>> poisoned
>>>> and made to die decades earlier because of Bushs policies?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20060921/hl_hsn/pollutedairmightincreasestrokerisk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/22/us/22soot.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/21/AR2006092101616.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                     EPA Reports 6 out of every 10 homes are sick.
>>>>>  a.. Strong new evidence suggests that air pollution emitted by power
>>>>> plants and vehicles
>>>>>  across the US raises the risk of lung disease, according to a study
>>>>> in
>>>>> the
>>>>> Journal of
>>>>>  the American Medical Association.
>>>>>  b.. The air inside your home may be 5 times more polluted than the
>>>>> air
>>>>> outside, according
>>>>>  to the EPA.
>>>>>  c.. More than 1/2 of the US population is breathing unhealthy amounts
>>>>> of
>>>>> air pollution
>>>>>  according to the American Lung Association's State of the Air, 2002.
>>>>>  d.. 40-50 million Americans suffer from allergies and 17 million
>>>>> battle
>>>>> asthma.
>>>>>  e.. Virus, fungus, bacteria and hundreds of other germs are carried
>>>>> in
>>>>> the
>>>>> air at all times.
>>>>>  While inhaled into the lungs, germs can cause cold, flu, pneumonia
>>>>> and
>>>>> other respiratory infections. When these germs lodge in your lungs,
>>>>> your
>>>>> breathing can be disrupted
>>>>>  and you can become ill. American Lung Association
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> there are a few associations between politics and asthma which yout wo
>>>>> seem
>>>>> to take issue about the most when I associate the idea. even thoughyou
>>>>> don't
>>>>> read my posts. Here are a few other ideas: Pollution is one of the
>>>>> most
>>>>> important but often overlooked causes of ill health. If you were to
>>>>> ask
>>>>> people what werethe causes of your relatives death few would say
>>>>> pollution
>>>>> but yet that isexactly what might have been a major contributor. I
>>>>> think
>>>>> people have toldme they came away thinking differently about asthma
>>>>> and
>>>>> pollution and illhealth after reading my posts. People might know of
>>>>> pollutions consequencesbut most people don't know their cities air
>>>>> ratings
>>>>> or how it pertains tooverall health. If I can promote people to be
>>>>> educated
>>>>> about one of the mostimportant factors in their health in life, then I
>>>>> can
>>>>> take the criticismsfrom people like you who obviously feel a bit
>>>>> threatened
>>>>> by information thatyou can't contribute. . I may post allot and its
>>>>> because
>>>>> the news media willnot go over the issue of pollution and the
>>>>> consequences
>>>>> and this will keeppeople a, uneducated about political changes, and b,
>>>>> uneducated aboutchoices where to live and how to find better
>>>>> conditions
>>>>> of
>>>>> air for theirfamily."mcs" <mcs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:fAXRg.2620$422.457@trnddc03...> yes, but do you realize one in
>>>>> five
>>>>> kids in NE states has asthma in some> places? They didn't have
>>>>> anything
>>>>> wrong with em.... the trees are dying> here, in droves, I
>>>>> automatically
>>>>> can't breath in moderate particulates,and> our news says polluted days
>>>>> are
>>>>> beautiful and their commericals are paidfor> by 34 different companies
>>>>> that
>>>>> tout drugs to treat you after they poison> you. If you think the goal
>>>>> for
>>>>> people to have jobs at poisoning the planet> and expense is business
>>>>> as
>>>>> it
>>>>> should be, better guess again or volunteerto> take our place while we
>>>>> live
>>>>> in Hawaii or at the ranch far away from> motorists and crime...> The
>>>>> stats
>>>>> say pollution kills and I say its underreported of the dangers.> When
>>>>> I
>>>>> first started people said I was crazy , global warming isn't true.>
>>>>> Guess
>>>>> what , if people knew that the biggest single reason for illnesswhen>
>>>>> everything else like diet and addictions were the same is
>>>>> pollution,people>
>>>>> might be singing a different
>>>>> tune.>>>>>>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20060921/hl_hsn/pollutedairmightincreasestrokerisk>>>
>>>>> some people think more people are being murdered by polluters then>>>
>>>>> murder, 9/11 and Iraq combined. Not only do longevity studies prove
>>>>> when>>>
>>>>> every thing else is the same , like diet and addiction levels,
>>>>> pollution>>>
>>>>> levels and amount of days an areas  t=that gets moderate or
>>>>> worseparticulates  is>>> the defining factor in contributing to lower
>>>>> longevity,>>> but many studies have showed cause and effect.When
>>>>> everything
>>>>> is similar>>> such as>>> diet and addiction, the defining factor for
>>>>> longevity seems to be how>>> close>>> people live to pollutants and
>>>>> how
>>>>> often. The associations between>>> pollution>>> and ill health are out
>>>>> there, but our news and politicians don't care>>> except>>> for Arnold
>>>>> and
>>>>> NY. mayor. More studies can be done and I could volunteermany types
>>>>> and
>>>>> how
>>>>> they can be done but I know what the result would show,the oil and
>>>>> energy
>>>>> crew don't want to know the truth . I am being charged upto 59 dollars
>>>>> a
>>>>> month for the right to use gas even if I don't use it. Canyou imagine
>>>>> what
>>>>> the conservatives would be screaming if someone chargedthem 59 dollars
>>>>> a
>>>>> month for something they don't use? Only in America canenergy get
>>>>> special
>>>>> treatment, poison you, made to pay more for it thenanything else
>>>>> combined
>>>>> and after they poison you, they cover it up and youcan't sue em... Oil
>>>>> and
>>>>> old energy people and Johnson from EPA>>> and Republicans are in power
>>>>> with
>>>>> a>>> mandate  knowing  people cant seem to  sue them and those people
>>>>> say>>> pollution and>>> its negative effects is not proven to prop up
>>>>> their
>>>>> energy supporterswho>>> gain billions, at your healths and families
>>>>> expense
>>>>> and this ispatronage and favoritism and wait, its at your>>> healths
>>>>> expense. This is MURDER . Where is expectation  of protectionfrom the
>>>>> epa
>>>>> who>>> disagrees with Johnson on this issue , or isn't govt is here to
>>>>> protectcitizens>>> equally/ Not in Bushs or Johnsons or Republicans
>>>>> MURDER
>>>>> the people who>>> don't know world.This is domestic terrorism. Don't
>>>>> think
>>>>> so trybreathing this for fifty years. look at my filters for one
>>>>> month,
>>>>> get
>>>>> intothis area of moderate pollution for 100 plus days a year and see
>>>>> how
>>>>> ittakes its tolls . Do a study. see how those closest to the pollution
>>>>> diesalmost 15 years sooner and those that don't have they tested their
>>>>> overallhealth compared to places with little or no pollution? I will
>>>>> tell
>>>>> you theresults. there are huge differences in attitudes, in health ,
>>>>> in
>>>>> optimismand even crime sometimes. all because of pollution levels. If
>>>>> republicansare poisoning people and not doing anything about it, this
>>>>> is
>>>>> murder...>> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/22/us/22soot.html>>>
>>>>> There
>>>>> are many other studies to show cause and effect and morecould>>> be
>>>>> had
>>>>> but
>>>>> you can't sue the bastards so don't expect to see thestudies..>>> This
>>>>> is
>>>>> a
>>>>> democracy? Poor being>>> poisoned, rich many living 14 years longer
>>>>> then
>>>>> others cause they arerich>>> and not near the pollution, the rest near
>>>>> polluters deal with it. Payfor>>> your lost health and medication so
>>>>> polluters make billions.Its not likewe>>> can't do more and we will
>>>>> leave
>>>>> ourselves vulnerable. All we are asking>>> for>>> is making changes
>>>>> that
>>>>> are
>>>>> available today faster!>>>>>>      Just moderate amounts of this
>>>>> poison
>>>>> is
>>>>> killing and hurtingamericans>>> and your families.... right now and
>>>>> this
>>>>> much I promise is true. The>>> latest longevity study shows that some
>>>>> people
>>>>> are living up to 14 years>>> longer and often the best longevity is in
>>>>> rich
>>>>> places in clean air.Clean>>> and dirty air in the longevity study
>>>>> recently
>>>>>
>>>>>forget about record number of asthma, forget illness we are talking
>>>>>death
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> pollution
>>>>>> in addition to all the links I gave before  and are available on the
>>>>>> net
>>>>>>> with the associationg of  death and ill health to pollution, the new
>>>>>>> longevity study by state
>>>>>>> shows that pollution is a factor in determning old age too in some
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> all places although the study authors didn't directly mention
>>>>>>> pollution..
>>>>>>> (how convenient)
>>>>>>> The study conveniently left out pollution as a factor .This is such
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> giant conspiracy to not tell people i think its absolutely criminal
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> lawyers can add this study to the ammunition they already could get
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> show
>>>>>>> pollution is associated to added risk of death and ill health. There
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> a place that has high amount of particle pollution with people who
>>>>>>> live
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> average the longest. In fact your more likely to not live longest
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> live
>>>>>>> shorter lives when you get high particulates and or ozone and
>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>> else in polluted and non polluted  areas are
>>>>>>> the same like diet and rates of addiction (thats my theory), so now
>>>>>>> what?
>>>>>>> If someone were to tell you or your family were going to loseup to
>>>>>>> five
>>>>>>> years of life  or a decade or more  for something you had no control
>>>>>>> of,
>>>>>>> or because of
>>>>>>> where you lived would you or should you
>>>>>>> be concerned? Should  you be warned? Should we have politicians or
>>>>>>> gov
>>>>>>> policy
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> protect you or families equally with expectations to live without
>>>>>>> undue
>>>>>>> risks?  should people in the US expect with their tax dollars, that
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> be warned of risks of bodily harm,  or  probabe cause  of imminent
>>>>>>> dangers Well
>>>>>>> that is exactly what is not  happening and no one is warning you.
>>>>>>> Its
>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>> to murder
>>>>>>> people so it seems as long as you can't sue the people who are
>>>>>>> murdering
>>>>>>> you.  and or your too poor to care or know your being poisoned .When
>>>>>>> cigarette companies and people who make errant products can be
>>>>>>> sued even though the people often had a choice its one thing. With
>>>>>>> energy
>>>>>>> companies or car companies, and  govt, that often sets amount of
>>>>>>> pollution, people down wind
>>>>>>> have no choices. people and companies profitting at someones health
>>>>>>> expense should not be allowed until provisions are made so companies
>>>>>>> have to reduce the factors that increase the risks of pollution and
>>>>>>> ill
>>>>>>> health ...   everyone should be protected equally
>>>>
>>>>  Not only that, how long you live by state is often
>>>>>>> diffused by not showing how long you might live in the most polluted
>>>>>>> cities in that state. Often the difference of only 40 miles could be
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> difference between living years longer or not.  ( for instance NJ is
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> polluted state but there are areas in NJ that get overall good air
>>>>>>> near
>>>>>>> the sea and asian women with good families and no bad habits living
>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>> time  show that) By and large if you live in
>>>>>>> polluted city like Camden Washington dc and you do or don't  have
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> risk factors, do you know which one is more likely to kill you
>>>>>>> faster?
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> oil , coal and energy ., THE DEFINING FACTOR IS POLLUTION in
>>>>>>> poisoning
>>>>>>> people and shortening their life and your not told.  The sad facts
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> more can be done NOW but isn't.
>>>>>>> Tens of thousands are losing up to decade of life but news would
>>>>>>> rather
>>>>>>> tell you about Britney Spears or a way in Iraq where one tenth as
>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>> people are dying, except here no one has a choice in accepting these
>>>>>>> toxins.
>>>>>>> .Of course the issue of condition of health is not even factored in
>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>> like the rate of cancer or asthma. If the studies were made that
>>>>>>> compared
>>>>>>> the health of people who ate the same rather healthy diet but one
>>>>>>> lived
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> polluted city and one didn't that difference would show cause and
>>>>>>> effect.
>>>>>>> People are being poisoned in many cities in NE and SE and these
>>>>>>> longevity
>>>>>>> studies adds to the proof.
>>>>>>> This longevity study should add fuel to the fire that first poor
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> in the cities offer suffer significantly more dealth and illness (
>>>>>>> addictions aside) then rich people in clean areas . Up to ten years
>>>>>>> more.
>>>>> Any people rich or poor living downwind from pollution are decreasing
>>>>> their average life span ... how much so still needs to be determining
>>>>> according to particulate and ozone level. In fact of all risk factors
>>>>> pollution might be the most important or as important as the other
>>>>> major
>>>>> risk factors like smoking and poor diet. If we are poisoning people ,
>>>>> why
>>>>> should we complain when they rob and shoot you when they couldn't be
>>>>> well
>>>>> enough to make the right choices?
>>>>> I saw a show on Britney Spears and we see the importance of wars in
>>>>> Iraq,
>>>>> we are told of recalls of errant car seat
>>>>> yet this issue is affecting tens of millions  of little boys and girls
>>>>> and
>>>>> families and the press is silent.. That little girl with cancer might
>>>>> have
>>>>> gotten cancer simply because her little body could not have absorbed
>>>>> the
>>>>> toxins around her.
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>>>>>>We talk about black people in poverty and our young getting fat but
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>incredible thing is even if they wanted to do better they might not be
>>>>>>able! becayse we are dosing them with black lungs and polluted bodies.
>>>>>>You try living in this poison for 39 years. Anyone can see what kind
>>>>>>of dirt is coming into my filter every 20 days, just mulitply that by
>>>>>>years.....
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