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Started by Brendan Kehoe
Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:48
Time Warner stock
Author: Brendan Kehoe
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:48
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:48
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Was the decision to sell the stock in Time Warner owned by
Philadelphia's municipal pension fund a good one? (They voted
yesterday to sell $1.6M in Time Warner stock because of Ice-T's album
"Body Count", which has the song "Cop Killer" on it.) What sort of
precedent does it set? I'm afraid that other similar groups will
start to use the "objectionable" watermark as their metric for whom
they should and should not fund. Was it wise?
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Brendan Kehoe, Sun Network Manager brendan@cs.widener.edu
Widener University Chester, PA
At Bennigan's, EVERYONE gets it!
Re: Time Warner stock
Author: Conway Yee
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:55
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:55
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brendan@cs.widener.edu writes: >Was the decision to sell the stock in Time Warner owned by >Philadelphia's municipal pension fund a good one? (They voted >yesterday to sell $1.6M in Time Warner stock because of Ice-T's album >"Body Count", which has the song "Cop Killer" on it.) What sort of >precedent does it set? I'm afraid that other similar groups will >start to use the "objectionable" watermark as their metric for whom >they should and should not fund. Was it wise? Well, It is probably too late wrt setting a precedence. This decision you mentioned is already following earlier precedents. Specifically, many groups sold their stocks in companies doing business in South Africa because of apartheid. From a fiscal point of view, the decision was a bad one. The key parameter to investment is profitability when you decide to sell the stock and the dividends received from owning the stock. On the other hand, people can do absolutely whatever they want with their money--including making bad investment decisions. As long as they do not come to me (as a taxpayer) for a bailout when their bad investment decisions causes the pension fund to collapse, I don't care. -- 411 Blockley Hall | Conway Yee, N2JWQ 418 Service Drive | yee@ming.mipg.upenn.edu (preferred) Philadelphia, PA 19104 | cy5@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (forwarded to above) (215) 662-6780 |
Re: Time Warner stock
Author: R. David Murray
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:53
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:53
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In article <BRENDAN.92Jul22114846@betty.cs.widener.edu>, brendan@cs.widener.edu (Brendan Kehoe) writes: > Was the decision to sell the stock in Time Warner owned by > Philadelphia's municipal pension fund a good one? (They voted > yesterday to sell $1.6M in Time Warner stock because of Ice-T's album > "Body Count", which has the song "Cop Killer" on it.) What sort of > precedent does it set? I'm afraid that other similar groups will > start to use the "objectionable" watermark as their metric for whom > they should and should not fund. Was it wise? It is always moral to only fund with your money those activities which you think are moral, just as it is moral to support with other actions only those activities which you think are moral. Thus does a free market society express its aggregate morality. On the other hand, the real owners of the resources involved are the pensionees, and I don't think they have the option of moving their money elsewhere if they in turn object to the actions of the pension fund managers. Of course, they could always stop working for the government . . .
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