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Article #327Re: oj aka brentwood butcher and nbc
From: Ciccio
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 00:00
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 00:00
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malloy@cris.com (Sean Malloy) writes: >So we should not _bother_ examining what we do in order to determine >what mistakes we have made so that we can _fix_ them in future >situations? Well Sean, it looks like we are finally in agreement on an issue...I think. Rehashing whether OJ did it or not is stupid. However, looking at the system's weaknesses, without regard to OJ's guilt or innocence makes sense. We stomped the shit outta Sadam, but we still should have looked at why some of his scuds made the trip, etc. The LA DA's presentation of the case was incompetent. NO not because they lost, but their methodology. I could fill pages with point by point details, but this isn't the place. So let me just offer an overall concept and a few observations. They didn't do what defense lawyers have to do most of the time...overcome jury bias. Most of the time jurors are biased against the defendant. They believe that the defendant is guilty before the case starts, or at best they are neutral. They seldom are where the law says they should be...presuming the defendant innocent. Defense lawyers know this and act accordingly. In this case...Surprise... The jury was actually predisposed to believing OJ was innocent. Yet, the prosecution went on to prosecute the case the way it usually does without much regard for bias. They should have prosecuted the case the way the defense usually defends as to the bias issue. Likewise, in the Rodney King-Simi Valley trial. OK, to be fair, they did try. They got the spousal abuse evidence in, the 911 tapes, etc. Darden made mention in his closing about public persona vs private persona. But such token efforts may be ok when the jury has its typical bias against the defendant...but it won't even come close when the bias is toward the other side. For examples, in closings, we heard the "race card", but there was no "class" card being played by the prosecution. The prosecution rather than relying on vouching, should have moved the race issue into a class issue. I know, bias should have nothing to do with it, the jury should only be made up of vulcans who only use logic, blah, blah. But that wasn't who was on the jury and the prosecution had a duty to deal with it effectively...they didn't. Bias aside, and regarding the presentation of the evidence... You can see why Alameda County DA's office has a nation wide reputation for being an excellent prosecutor's office. Alameda Co loaned Rock Harmon to the OJ prosecution team. He is one of the most experienced prosecutors in the US regarding DNA. After it was over, did he make lame excuses like Clark, Darden, and Garcetti?...the jury was biased, WHINE! SOB! They were black, WHINE! SOB! SOB! OJ is guilty SOB! SOB! This is unjust BOO HOO! BOO HOO! Hell no! Harmon said: that the defense was like a "buzzsaw". He didn't like them or what they stood for...but they were great trial lawyers. They came up with defenses to the physical evidence never seen before. They rewrote the book on presenting and challenging DNA evidence. He's going to make sure law enforcement agencies in Alameda CO get advised how to change methods of collecting, analyzing and presenting such evidence.... See the difference? He didn't come up with excuses or bullshit about changing the rules. If the LA prosecutors would admit they got their asses whipped fair and square...I'd respect them...more importantly I'd take comfort in knowing my governmental officials seek to improve themselves...instead of advocating taking away liberties to compensate for their incompetence. Whether OJ did it or not.... the prosecution did a piss poor performance. Ciao! Ciccio
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