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In article <44a1ki$j1c@tweety.sna.com>,  <frodo@sna.com> wrote:
>In article <449nbq$9so@panix3.panix.com>,
>   sethb@panix.com (Seth Breidbart) wrote:
>>In article <446s7o$5og@tweety.sna.com>,  <frodo@sna.com> wrote:
>>>In article <thurlowDFFE4E.1xs@netcom.com>,
>>>   thurlow@netcom.com (Robert Thurlow) wrote:
>>>>In article <Pine.ULT.3.91.950922111538.11088C-100000@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>,
>>>>Katharine A Harrison  <kaharris@mtholyoke.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>>> I don't care for you sarcasm, and I don't care for your attitude.  
>>>>
>>>>Look, if you want to flame Charles, you need to do a *lot* better
>>>>than that.  Trust me on this - I've seen some of the man's best
>>>>flame art :-)
>>
>>>Gee Rob, flaming on the net makes as much sence as lighting farts at the 
>>>movies. Maybe she doesn't want to flame hin at all?
>>
>>Then she shouldn't have done it at all, much less such a feeble
>>job of it.

>Seth - - - you have done such a poor job of snipping the thread I had to think 
>about what you presented here to figure out what I said. 

What a shame, forcing you to think.  I hope you didn't burn out
anything important.

I followed the Usenet guidelines for followups (see
news.announce.newusers) by editing the post I replied to down to the
minimum necessary for comprehension.  You might try that (rather than
quoting the entire post, including signature).

>Saying you don't caring for something such as sarcasm or attitude is the 
>expression or a feeling.  A flame on the other hand is a personel attack (I 
>will get flamed for grammar, spelling and stupidity for using personel 
>{personnel}in place of personal).

Personal attacks are a category of flame.  Aficionados of flaming as
an art form consider it the lowest category.

>Since caring is a feeling; are you saying that the usenet is not an 
>appropriate place to express feelings?

Not at all.  I suggested that if flaming isn't what someone desired to
do, then she shouldn't have done it.  I also pointed out that she did
it poorly.

> An alt binanary newsgroup might not be 
>an appropriate place for feelings but aren't "Singles" newsgroups appropriate 
>places to express feelings? 

Does that include my feelings that the flame was inappropriate (based
on a desire not to flame) and poorly done?

>Seth if you don't agree that a Singles newsgroup is a good place to share 
>feelings, why don't you restart the alt.sex.brothel newsgroup? That would be a 
>grand place to talk about sex between people without feelings or 
>relationships. 

"A" singles newsgroup?  Have you seen the abortion of a Newsgroups:
line up there?

>If you thought Katharine was flaming you must feel like a hotdog at a winnie 
>roast right now.

Hah.  It takes _real_ flames to affect me.  I doubt you're capable
thereof.

>That could be thought of as a personal attack. It wasn't meant as such. I just 
>wanted to point out to you that it was very hard for me to follow who was 
>saying what.

Count the ">" at the left margin.

>If I had wanted to flame you I might have said something like this:
>
>[Seth You are an idiot!  You did such a shit job of snipping the thread I 
>didjn't know who said what. Are you you using your Dad's computer? You write 
>like a 10 year old idiot.]
>
>I trust you can see the difference.

Yes: you can't flame for shit when you're trying to.

>To recap, as I see it.
>
>Katharine said:
>>>>> I don't care for you sarcasm, and I don't care for your attitude.  
>
>Frodo said:
>>>Gee Rob, flaming on the net makes as much sence as lighting farts at the 
>>>movies. Maybe she doesn't want to flame hin at all?
>
>Seth said:
>>Then she shouldn't have done it at all, much less such a feeble
>>job of it.

>Katharine expressed a feeling.
>
>Frodo expressed an opinion on flaming in general and his his feelings 
>reguarding Katharine's post.
>
>Seth launched a personal attack at Katharine for expressing her feelings.

Huh?  Seth said, based on Frodo's claim that Katharine was flaming and
might not have wanted to, that she did it very poorly, and shouldn't
have done it in the first place if she didn't want to.

>Seth if I am missing something here please enlighten me.

Hope this helps.

Seth