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Article #24Re: San Francisco PCCs
From: Robert Gordon
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:00
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:00
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> In passing, I should note that there are three actual historical San > Francisco streetcars available on the F-line. Only one of these is > a double-ender. (There is a Philly PCC painted for Pacific Electris, > which AFAIK never ran single-end PCCs -- they were all double-ends.) > > I believe there are actually 3 or 4 of Muni's double-end 'torpedo' cars on the F line. One is painted up for Illinois Terminal, one for Red Arrow (originally in Muni grey/silver), one done up in the Muni blue/gold and possibly one more in Muni green/white. I've heard that possibly more double end cars may be refurbished to provide Fisherman's Wharf to Caltrain service on a future "E" line. The original poster was asking about a cutback on Market Street that would require front pole operation. That wye is an emergency cutback at 11th and Market. I've seen it in use during the PCC era (cars carried a "X-11th Street" destination sign). A track map in the "Inside Muni" book shows wyes also at 30th & Judah on the N, 35th & Taraval on the L and Broad & Plymouth on the M (as of April 1981). These may still be there to wye a PCC out on those lines on fantrips, for instance. Bob
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