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jcwx@earth.execpc.com (John Weir) wrote:

>Dr. Driving (dyc@aloha.net) wrote:

>: We need a soical-cultural transformation, a change in norms of
>: aggressiveness behind the wheel.  We need to take charge with car
>: commercials and movies and tell advertisers and sponsors that we care
>: about depicting and encouraging bad driving behavior on the screen. 
>: Maybe we need an additional rating on movies -- not just Adult language,
>: Violence, Nudity, Sex -- but also BD for Bad Driving Behavior!

>You aren't serious, are you?  What, do we have to rate _everything_
>for the lowest common denominator?  Don't you think that most people
>are capable of figuring this out for themselves, and don't need a
>rating system to spell it out for them?  

There are already guidelines to prevent car advertisers making an
issue of the performance of their cars. And some people sad enough to
complain when they feel the guidelines have been broken.

Steve

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In article <33f85605.0@wltss01.nerc-wallingford.ac.uk>,
  real.address@sig.file (Stephen Walker) wrote:
> There are already guidelines to prevent car advertisers making an
> issue of the performance of their cars. And some people sad enough to
> complain when they feel the guidelines have been broken.
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I suppose you're referring to unlawful claims about a product, consumer
protection, etc.  I was actually talking about Bad Driving scenes in BOTH
commercials and movies, cartoons, etc.	So my proposal is to have them
rated (not unlike Adult Language, Nudity, Violence).  No consumer
protection from the law  here: we need grassroots voluntary stuff here,
responding to the concern that we're breeding a new generation or road
ragers and aggressive drivers.

Let's be specfic:  what I mean by "bad driving" or "aggressive driving"
is the portrayal of stunts and dangerous situations that aren't real, but
to children, it looks real and weakens their resolve to be good drivers. 
Don't you think that's really important?  Some examples I saw recently:

Subaru:  strange looking stuntmen junmp on the speeding vehicle driven by
a cowboy, and the men look inside and say something inane like, "Is this
a leather seat?" etc.  Another shows a kid driving a car in circles with
a fiendish look on his face.  These are BDs.  Another common one in
movies where the car is actually pulled and the driver is pretending to
drive, meanwhile taking the eyes off the road for up to 20 secs.!!


Leon James (aka Dr. Driving)
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In article <872906618.3032@dejanews.com>, "Dr. Driving" <dyc@aloha.net>
writes
>In article <33f85605.0@wltss01.nerc-wallingford.ac.uk>,
>  real.address@sig.file (Stephen Walker) wrote:
>> There are already guidelines to prevent car advertisers making an
>> issue of the performance of their cars. And some people sad enough to
                                               ****
>> complain when they feel the guidelines have been broken.
>++++++++++++++++

Remember the Safeway ad with Molly in the car thinking about cheap
tomatoes or something? There were *hundreds* who spotted that her seat
belt wasn't done up correctly and complained (I got this from one who
thought she would be the only one calling in, and was surprised to be
told the phones had been jammed for a week). 

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Dr. Driving wrote:
> 
> 
> Let's be specfic:  what I mean by "bad driving" or "aggressive driving"
> is the portrayal of stunts and dangerous situations that aren't real, but
> to children, it looks real and weakens their resolve to be good drivers.

I, for one, wish to do *nothing* which would have the effect of reducing
The World to the level of comprehension exhibited by children.


DD

"Dr. Driving" <dyc@aloha.net> wrote:

>In article <33f85605.0@wltss01.nerc-wallingford.ac.uk>,
>  real.address@sig.file (Stephen Walker) wrote:
>> There are already guidelines to prevent car advertisers making an
>> issue of the performance of their cars. And some people sad enough to
>> complain when they feel the guidelines have been broken.
>++++++++++++++++

>I suppose you're referring to unlawful claims about a product, consumer
>protection, etc. 

Nope. I mean that there are guidelines to prevent advertisers saying

'Our new car is really jolly fast, and  rather good fun to punt down a
twisty road'.

You have to say

'Our new car is very safe when overtaking lorries at 50 mph, and has
driver passenger and side airbags. This means that you can drive like
a complete dickhead without risking getting your cranium opened.  In
fact, the whole car is an airbag, which inflates the moment you get
into it, thus making sure that you don't hurt yourself.'

Steve

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to deter spam.

On Sun, 31 Aug 1997 dresden@star.net wrote:
> My favorite bad driving commercial was the Nissan (Maxima?) ad where the
> 18 wheeler "appears out of nowhere" while the guy is passing an RV.
(snip)
> truck LITERALLY appear out of nowhere! The message...unsafe passing is OK,
> if you get in a jam by being an idiot it's not your fault, as long as
> you've got this car...I looked for a Nissan e-mail address to flame them
> for that ad when it came out, but couldn't find one...I think they've
> pulled it now.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++

Good for you!  We need to let them know that we care about stuff like
that.  First there was Sex and Violence--we got ratings.  Now I'm hearing
pressure building up to do it for cigarette smoking being made glamorous
in movies.  BD ("Bad Driving " scenes) is next!!


Leon James (aka Dr. Driving)
Visit My Congresional Testimony on Road Rage and Aggressive Drivers
http://www.aloha.net/~dyc/testimony.html