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Article #1043Re: New people for environuts to picket!
From: rexs13
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 00:00
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 00:00
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larryc@teleport.com (Larry Caldwell) wrote: --snip-- >Watersheds can recover, and forest ecologies are amazingly resilient. Great point, Larry, when speaking of low- and mid-elevation temperate rainforests such as those west of the Cascade summit below 5000 feet or so and in the Coast Range here in the Pacific Northwest (Oregon in particular). I would add that repeated damage (for example- 30 year rotations practiced for a couple of hundred years) may cause eventual, lasting harm (soil depletion, water table changes, etc.) resulting in a change in the structures of the ecosystems involved. As Paul Sisney author of "Round And About: Perspectives On A Park" points out: "In a 1926 letter to Stephen Mather, Director of the National Park Service, C.G. Thompson, then Superintendent of Crater Lake National Park, recommended against Silver Creek Falls as a national park. ... "If the region were still virgin there is no doubt their merit would warrant very careful consideration as to national park value but, unfortunately the region has heard the sound of the axe for many years, a large majority of the big trees having been felled so that the remaining timber is practically all second growth. Worse, there are large areas of stark stumpage staring one in the face from every angle. From the brink of one of the best falls (South Falls- rex) one looks across a canyon up a slope that is absolutely bare execpt for hundreds of thousands of stumps that from a distance look like so many dark headstones. When the axemen went through they took everything that stood upon these various acreages ......'" "In 1935, also recommending against Silver Creek as a national park, J.L Bossemeyer stated, 'the prevalence of cut-over land and farming activity in the vicinity is such as to destroy that feeling of nature undisturbed that is so essential to a National Park.' Mr. Bossemeyer further warned, 'Under private ownership, the inhabitants of the area encourage brush fires for the purpose of opening the land for grazing. Second growth timber is cut as soon as it is of suitable size for poles. This situation will assuredly result in the eventual loss of the wonderful scenic beauty of Silver Creek Falls State Park, through the decline of the water of Silver Creek.' Bessemeyer urged the inclusion of this area within the Recreational Demonstration Project.'" (which later became Silver Falls State Park- rex) "What a difference a pair of decades makes! Writing in 1953, (author W.A.) Langille noted that 'altho (sic) logging and subsequent fires have reduced the primeval park forest to a negligible quantity, the area does support a vigorous, piling-sized second growth of Douglas fir, with intervals of heavy sapolings and thickets of younger growth, that give every promise of indefinitely sustaining the supremacy of this superior tree over the entire park... It is indeed fortunate that the old growth Douglas fir has been so widely cut and removed before the land was acquired for park purposes. The splendid new growth that succeded it now covers much of the area and is some fifty years old, with intervals of younger trees that make an ideal forest for park purposes.'" And, in a later view, "State Park Director Dave Talbot in seeking to acquire an additional 120 acres for the park was quoted in 1984: 'If you stand at the (South) Falls and look up and west toward the setting sun, you'll see the property we want to buy.' If the state should not buy it? 'And then you'd look toward the setting sun and see clearcut.'" To get an example of what this would look like, just visit South Falls Lodge and view the photo from the late 1800s of a man standing at South Falls looking at the burned over area that is mentioned by the authors above. The Park did acquire the area and the beautiful second growth Douglas firs are admired today by visitors from around the world. "All my life's a circle and I can't tell you why," the late Harry Chapin. (Ok, so he won't be coming to dinner tonight or ever again - he's deceased, not late.) --snip-- >Most of the voting citizenry never leaves pavement. Gosh, Larry, many mushroom pickers barely leave the pavement!!!!-) >They rely on mass media >and what they see out their car windows to form their opinions. There is >some doubt that is a reasonable way of determining land management policy >in national forests. I would probably be wiser to remove the issue >completely from the political arena, turn management over to foresters and >biologists, and just give the professionals the parameters of how much >wildlife, how much timber and how much scenery we want 50 and 100 years >from now. >Not that I think that will ever happen. Too many politicians (on both sides >of the issue) would be unwilling to ever give up that much power. >-- Larry At last, a common sense approach to timber management - apolitical. Still waiting............. rexs13 ***All mushrooms are edible, some species only once.***
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fd3e2,457f9a6e05a5a610 X-Google-Attributes: gidfd3e2,public X-Google-Thread: fcf1e,457f9a6e05a5a610 X-Google-Attributes: gidfcf1e,public X-Google-Thread: 10a18d,457f9a6e05a5a610 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a18d,public X-Google-Thread: 106b31,457f9a6e05a5a610 X-Google-Attributes: gid106b31,public X-Google-Thread: 106cdd,457f9a6e05a5a610 X-Google-Attributes: gid106cdd,public X-Google-Thread: 110a87,457f9a6e05a5a610 X-Google-Attributes: gid110a87,public From: rexs13@open.org (rexs13) Subject: Re: New people for environuts to picket! Date: 1997/08/06 Message-ID: <5s92if$h2p@opengovt.open.org> X-Deja-AN: 262602333 References: <Ucanada-greenpeaceURuSl_7l3.RCYK_7l3@clari.net><Pine.SUN.3.95.970711123416.15158B-100000@garcia.efn.org><01bc8f66$f0aae8e0$2a6bbace@kats.prcn.org> <5Blyz0O5IAQS091yn@teleport.com><5qgq4k$emh$1@news.pacifier.com> <1FOzz0O5Ig+X091yn@teleport.com> <01bc930c$c86cdec0$dc7681ce@premier1.premier1.net> <33CF9508.366B@forestmeister.com> <8nP1z0O5I4YQ091yn@teleport.com> Organization: OPEN.org Community Network Newsgroups: pnw.general,or.general,wash.general,bc.general,alt.culture.oregon,bionet.agroforestry