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Article #1072Re: Loggers picke, yadadadada
From: Walt Tucker
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 00:00
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 00:00
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In article <01bc98a3$cb2ac400$451363ce@dwagner>, "Dale Wagner" <dwagner@mail.coos.or.us> writes: |> It is probably because they don't have the control. Or the money. I grew up in Astoria, where "cut and run" was the rule. As a boy scout in the early 70s, I planted (reforested) several thousand trees on a Crown-Zellerbach clear cut. In a watershed, no less. That should have never been my job. It wasn't until the mid-70s that anyone in the timber industry (with the exception of Weyerhauser, who had been doing it on the Washington side of the river for years) started to consider long term sustainable use. A lot of the small gyppo loggers are one and two truck outfits that often operate on a shoestring budget. A small gyppo company (one or two trucks, three people) cut the acreage behind my parents place. Any expenditures beyond getting the trees down and on a truck would break a lot of these guys. Call it greed if you like, or simply a small company operating on a tight budget. Sad, but true. It is a moot discussion at this point, though, since the logging industry in Clatsop county is pretty much gone now. -- Walt |> The control is in the |> hands of the bankers and corporate officers. These people are nortarious |> for preferring short term gains over long term. They are the ones who |> prefer a bird in the hand instead of two nesting in the bush. |> |> Greg Rose <gregr@black.kilchis.com> wrote in article |> <5r8h65$lvp$1@news.rain.net>... |> > Joyce Reynolds-Ward (jrw*********@********aracnet.com) wrote: |> > : On 19 Jul 1997 20:07:13 GMT, gregr@black.kilchis.com (Greg Rose) |> > |> > : >It also leaves a lot of loggers and local mills with fewer jobs. |> Forests |> > : >should be managed for sustainable and reliable production of timber so |> > : >that people can have steady and reliable jobs. IMHO, the Clatsop |> > : >State Forest that is just adjacent to many of the private lands |> > : >around Saddle Mt. is a prime example of how this can be done while |> > : >still preserving recreational and other multiple-use features of |> > : >the forest. Of course, private timber companies have no reason to |> > : >worry about recreational or multiple-use needs, but as good corporate |> > : >neighbors they should take into account the long-term needs of the |> > : >communities surrounding them and try to manage their forests for |> > : >a sustainable job base. |> > |> > : amen, brother Greg, and AMEN. |> > |> > : For some reason this logic seems to escape both conservationist and |> > : logger alike. Why? |> > |> > That's the 64,000 dollar question. Something about egos, greed, self- |> > righteousness and some other common human failures I guess. |> > |> > greg rose |> > -- Walt Tucker
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fd3e2,457f9a6e05a5a610 X-Google-Attributes: gidfd3e2,public X-Google-Thread: fcf1e,457f9a6e05a5a610 X-Google-Attributes: gidfcf1e,public X-Google-Thread: 10a18d,457f9a6e05a5a610 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a18d,public X-Google-Thread: 106b31,457f9a6e05a5a610 X-Google-Attributes: gid106b31,public X-Google-Thread: 106cdd,457f9a6e05a5a610 X-Google-Attributes: gid106cdd,public X-Google-Thread: 110a87,457f9a6e05a5a610 X-Google-Attributes: gid110a87,public From: wtucker@wv.mentorg.com (Walt Tucker) Subject: Re: Loggers picke, yadadadada Date: 1997/07/28 Message-ID: <5rj03v$2cr@hpmos.wv.mentorg.com> X-Deja-AN: 259897665 Distribution: world References: <Ucanada-greenpeaceURuSl_7l3.RCYK_7l3@clari.net> <1FOzz0O5Ig+X091yn@teleport.com> <5qr6ph$khh$1@news.rain.net> <33d58b7c.765874@news.aracnet.com> <5r8h65$lvp$1@news.rain.net> <01bc98a3$cb2ac400$451363ce@dwagner> Organization: Mentor Graphics, Wilsonville, Oregon, USA Newsgroups: pnw.general,or.general,wash.general,bc.general,alt.culture.oregon,bionet.agroforestry