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Article #1091Re: New people for environuts to picket!
From: Larry Caldwell
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 00:00
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 00:00
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In article <33CF9508.366B@forestmeister.com>, Joseph Zorzin <redoak@forestmeister.com> wrote: > Long before there were "environuts", the lumber industry wiped out > entire forests- first the east coast, then the Appalachian mountains, > the midwest, etc., etc., etc. and the industry didn't give 2 shits for > you and any other loggers and other forestry workers. Are you so naive > as to think the industry cares for you? And after whole sections of the > country were wasted, the industry picked up and moved on leaving many > thousands without jobs and a wasted environment- erosion, damaged > watersheds, etc. It's hard to blame this on a "lumber industry" per se. The objective of the first settlers was farmland, and they often just cut down trees and burned them to clear cropland. In some cases, like much of New England, the land was too poor to be worth farming and was abandoned later. Clearing it in the first place was a foolish thing to do. In other cases, like the Ohio River Valley, the land is worth much more as farmland even though it was historically forested. The main cause of deforestation in the USA has been agriculture, and anybody who eats bears at least some responsibility for that. The extinction of the passenger pigeon sent a shock through the national consciousness. Unrestrained habitat destruction combined with unrestrained hunting led to a rapid collapse of the population. They went from flights that darkened the sky to extinction in only a couple decades. This gave a great boost to Theodore Roosevelt's efforts to establish a national park system, and brought conservation into the mainstream of American politics. (Yes, I know the last passenger pigeon outlived Roosevelt. However, the wild flights were completely wiped out.) The development of a more or less unified "lumber industry" has been pretty much a 20th century phenomenon. Generally they have done a pretty good job of managing their own timber holdings, while doing the absolute minimum required by law. It's easy to point to the destruction of the 1930's or 1950's, but the fact is that laws have changed and it just doesn't happen any more. I live not far from Zane Grey's favorite fishing camp. By the 1940's, fish were extinct in that whole stretch of the North Umpqua. Now, that fishing camp has been converted to the Steamboat Inn, the whole stretch of the river has been limited to artificial fly fishing, and it's as close to fly fishing heaven as exists in this country. Watersheds can recover, and forest ecologies are amazingly resilient. > Very few "environuts" say there should never be any logging, so that > idiotic implication you should flush down your toilet. Most "environuts" > just want to see land management done correctly on a sustained yield > basis. The old term "cut and run" existed long before the environuts. > Exactly how we will manage lands "correctly" of course is debatable- and > both sides have their extremists. There are a surprising number of "zero cut" activists on the Left Coast, thought they are still a minority. There are enough of them that they won a public vote and converted the Sierra Club to an officially "zero cut" organization. There is some doubt that this constitutes the view of the members, since only 14% of the membership bothered to vote in the election. The Sierra Club is a very politically powerful organization. It's probably not realistic to dismiss them as a fringe group. > And don't ever forget that the National Forests don't belong to you and > the timber industry- they belong to the nation. And the citizens of this > free country have every right to speak up about how the land is managed > or mismanaged. And they have every right to influence politicians in any > way they want- whether you like or not. Just like the "gun nuts". Or the > "relgious nuts". Most of the voting citizenry never leaves pavement. They rely on mass media and what they see out their car windows to form their opinions. There is some doubt that is a reasonable way of determining land management policy in national forests. I would probably be wiser to remove the issue completely from the political arena, turn management over to foresters and biologists, and just give the professionals the parameters of how much wildlife, how much timber and how much scenery we want 50 and 100 years from now. Not that I think that will ever happen. Too many politicians (on both sides of the issue) would be unwilling to ever give up that much power. -- Larry
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fd3e2,457f9a6e05a5a610 X-Google-Attributes: gidfd3e2,public X-Google-Thread: fcf1e,457f9a6e05a5a610 X-Google-Attributes: gidfcf1e,public X-Google-Thread: 10a18d,457f9a6e05a5a610 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a18d,public X-Google-Thread: 106cdd,457f9a6e05a5a610 X-Google-Attributes: gid106cdd,public X-Google-Thread: 106b31,457f9a6e05a5a610 X-Google-Attributes: gid106b31,public X-Google-Thread: 110a87,457f9a6e05a5a610 X-Google-Attributes: gid110a87,public From: larryc@teleport.com (Larry Caldwell) Subject: Re: New people for environuts to picket! Date: 1997/07/23 Message-ID: <8nP1z0O5I4YQ091yn@teleport.com> X-Deja-AN: 258286510 References: <Ucanada-greenpeaceURuSl_7l3.RCYK_7l3@clari.net><Pine.SUN.3.95.970711123416.15158B-100000@garcia.efn.org><01bc8f66$f0aae8e0$2a6bbace@kats.prcn.org> <5Blyz0O5IAQS091yn@teleport.com><5qgq4k$emh$1@news.pacifier.com> <1FOzz0O5Ig+X091yn@teleport.com> <01bc930c$c86cdec0$dc7681ce@premier1.premier1.net> <33CF9508.366B@forestmeister.com> Organization: QLRI Newsgroups: pnw.general,or.general,wash.general,bc.general,alt.culture.oregon,bionet.agroforestry