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In article <knauer.815794837@ibeam>, knauer@ibeam.jf.intel.com says...
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>In <4741gs$eu1@myst.plaza.ds.adp.com> ronf@plaza.ds.adp.com (Ron Finley ) 
writes:
>>In article <46ukds$9es@eaglecap.eosc.osshe.edu>,
>>Charles Sauls <saulsc@emily.eosc.osshe.edu> wrote:
>>>      I've always heard it this way: The _Pacific_ Northwest is Oregon, 
>>>Washington, sometimes B.C., and occasionally Alaska. The _U.S._ Northwest 
>>>is Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. Anything south of 42N 
>>>(or the southern boundary of Wyoming) is the Southwest, extreme northern 
>>>California included. 
>>>      Alberta, since it's not on the Pacific, is not a Pacific 
>>>Northwest province. The Yukon isn't on the Pacific either, and thus is 
>>>part of the _Canadian_ Northwest, but not the _Pacific_ Northwest. 
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>...  but growing up in Ohio, my history teacher taught us that Ohio,
>Indiana, Michigan, and Illinois were acquired as part of the Northwest
>Territories ...  :-)
>

My texts always called that the Old Northwest and out here the Pacific 
Northwest. 

To include B.C. in the Pacific Northwest is just plain rude, ignoring as it
does the rather obvious fact that B.C. is Canada's West Coast. One might say
the Pacific Northwest and British Columbia without too much offense, I 
think. The Pacific Northwest is the U.S. Northwest. And, you can say 
the P.N.W.and Alaska, too, but Alaska cannot be subsumed into the 
P.N.W. rubric.

BTW, the University of Oregon used to publish, and may still do so, an 
Economic Atlas of the Pacific Northwest. Their definition was "Washington,
Oregon, Idaho, and the 17 western counties of Montana.

Or if you approach it ethnographically you might remember that Northwest
Indian culture area extended down into northern California, although the
salmon-based economy blended into one dominated by acorns; however, many
myths and ceremonies were obviously related. Certainly, I feel very much
at home in the redwood country.

Despite the historic presence of Pacific salmon in the Snake, I have never
seen anyone else include Wyoming in the P.N.W. Nor have I have ever
encountered a reference that included Alberta.

Frank R.A.J. Maloney
frankm@microsoft.com

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