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Re: Wanted: Post election comments on Prop. 9

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From: Pat Myrto
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:07
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In article <1992Nov16.235031.8704@pcx.ncd.com> johnl@pcx.ncd.com (John Light) writes:
<In article <1802@rwing.UUCP> pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto) writes:
<
<[arguments deleted about what constitutes a special right]
<
<>>The problem I see is that as more of us are threatened by a deteriorating
<>>society, some of us will believe that we are safer if society's resources
<>>aren't wasted protecting lesser citizens.  In fact, none of us is any
<>                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<>>safer that the least protected citizen.
<>
<>Freudian slip here?  'lesser' than you envision yourself, perhaps?
<
<I constructed that sentence with great care.  The clause in question starts

Uh-huh.  Great choice of words.  Hard to accept you might have some
warts in your belief structure, isn't it?

<with the phrase "some of us will believe".  The remainder of the clause is
<written from the perspective of the those who believe that way.  I am
<certainly not one of the people who believe that way, so you have no

Oh, of COURSE not!

<reason to infer that I see "lesser citizens".  My view follows and is
<carefully constructed (except for the typo) to say that I only see
<"less protected citizens", which certainly includes people you believe
<are getting "special rights".

Kinda defensive, aren't we?

<>I don't know for sure, but I would suspect that members of the groups
<>being discussed would be less than thrilled that you regard them as
<>'lesser citizens'.   It kind of gives credence to the idea that much of
<>the advocacy for special protective status arises from feelings of guilt
<>arising from ones own prejudices that one is trying to conceal by putting
<>it on everyone else.  Getting one to go along with what is really an
<>unfair practice by attaching guilt to those who oppose is hardly a new
<>tactic.  It would be very unfortunate if it worked as well as some wish
<>it would: one could silence all opposition simply by tossing a few
<>derrogatories around...
<
<What claptrap.  If you find my writing too hard to read, I can drop to
<a lower grade level with some effort.

Hmm.  Seems I have struck a nerve.

If all else fails, completely ignore points disagreed with by deleting
and not responding to them, and instead crank up the personal attacks...

What's good for the goose, etc ...

I don't see how you can consider yourself having a whole lot of room to
be so judgemental.  Its this very attitude you are displaying that
ENLARGES the problem rather than aid in the solution.

I presume you would like me to attend a 'political re-education'
camp so as to ensure future thoughts are 'correct' but please don't hold
your breath.  On second thought,  ...  :-)


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pat@rwing.uucp                                  (Pat Myrto),  Seattle, WA
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Subject: Re: Wanted: Post election comments on Prop. 9
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