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Article #894Re: Wesley A. Dodd
From: Mark Crispin
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 05:54
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 05:54
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Mike Quigley writes: > many of those gathered outside the prison > to SUPPORT THE HANGING where [sic] CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALISTS and RIGHT TO > LIFERS! Many of those lighting little candles against the death penalty were also Christian extremists. Their headquarters was a local church. So what is Quigley trying to prove? It seems absurd to me as an Atheist to see one Christian group arguing that another Christian group's beliefs and value systems are absurd. That's like the pot calling the kettle black; they're both equally absurd. If anything, the ``moderates'' are worse than the ``fundamentalists'' -- at least the fundies have some perception that they're in a minority and off the deep end. The ``moderates'' are intolerant both of the fundies and of the non-religious. There's been a tremendous propaganda effort by the death penalty antis that last night was proven to be bullshit. Dodd's death was not the gruesome horror that the antis portrayed. No surprise; it's long been known that death by hanging is instantaneous when done properly, but science is always ignored when it interferes with ideology. Here's another part of the propaganda to debunk: the wierd notion that ``no other civilized country has the death penalty'' and that by having a death penalty we are in the company of ``such nations as Iraq, South Africa, the Soviet Union [never mind that there is no longer such a country] and China.'' This bit of propaganda presupposes that ``civilized country'' is defined as ``country in North America and Western Europe.'' This seems to be a bit racist to me. Then again, lefties have never flinched from racism when it has been useful. It is racist to label Korea and Japan ``not civilized'', yet they both have a death penalty. By hanging in both countries, if I'm not mistaken. Isn't it also racist to call Malaysia ``not civilized'', simply because it takes its drug problem seriously enough to hang drug smugglers? I'm also not too sure about the use of ``civilized'' to describe Europe. Now that the 45 years of enforced good behavior has come to an end, Europeans are gleefully turning back to ``ethnic cleansing'', neo-Nazism, and religious warfare throughout the continent.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!ogicse!news.u.washington.edu!news.u.washington.edu!news From: mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin) Newsgroups: pnw.general Subject: Re: Wesley A. Dodd Message-ID: <MS-C.726270852.377401575.mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> Date: 5 Jan 93 05:54:12 GMT Article-I.D.: Tomobiki.MS-C.726270852.377401575.mrc Organization: University of Washington Lines: 40 NNTP-Posting-Host: tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <4142@master.CNA.TEK.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII