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Mark Crispin <mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM> writes:

>David Barts writes:
>>Translation:  "Hi, I'm from California and I'm here to tell all you
>>folks who learned to drive in the Rockies and the Midwest how to drive
>>in the ice and snow.  Trust me."

>Translation: "Hi, I'm not a PNW native, but I want to be cool just
>like you PNW natives.  Like you, I am bigoted and prejudiced but oh so
>politically correct.  So I will bash `Californians' -- even if they're
>not really from California -- so I can fit right in with Emmet Watson,
>the True PNW Native!"  [It's curious how real PNW natives rarely play
>the California bashing game.]

My, touchy about that "California" issue, aren't we?

Mark, if your article wouldn't have had the same pompous tone that
so many of the Texas drivers had about driving on snow in NM (the
very same Texans who then demonstrated their utter incompetence at
negotiating an icy, banked hairpin curve and ended up 30 feet down
a road embankment) I probably wouldn't have bothered responding to
it.

-- 
David Barts  N5JRN                      UW Civil Engineering, FX-10
davidb@ce.washington.edu                Seattle, WA  98195

As a former cab driver, in New York and San Francisco, I'm hear
to tell you how to drive in snow and ice:

	Use your head.

It's very simple to drive in bad weather, just use your heads.  Seattle
drivers don't even know how to drive in the rain!  Turn on your lights, 
drive five or ten miles an hour slower and leave lots of room between cars.
And check to see how the traction is by occassionally using your brakes.
It's just that simple.


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Hear, hear!  Finally someone laid it on the line.  Use your head.  Why
couldn't this have been said about thirty posts ago.  Another good idea
is to have emergency supplies like a map, gloves, boots, a full tank of
gas when you start your trip.  
There's nothing that will ensue disater more than a lack of
preparedness.
As for the technical aspects of driving on rain, snow or ice,  CHECK
WITH THE DEALERSHIP.  They have access to the results of hundreds of
hours of testing with your model of car.  This BS of trying to remember
thirty or forty rules that only peripherally relate to your car is going
to delay a reaction or cause an incorrect reaction.

zakons@halcyon.com (Scott Allan Zakon) writes:

>Hear, hear!  Finally someone laid it on the line.  Use your head.  Why
>couldn't this have been said about thirty posts ago.  Another good idea
>is to have emergency supplies like a map, gloves, boots, a full tank of
>gas when you start your trip.  
>There's nothing that will ensue disater more than a lack of
>preparedness.
>As for the technical aspects of driving on rain, snow or ice,  CHECK
>WITH THE DEALERSHIP.  They have access to the results of hundreds of
>hours of testing with your model of car.  This BS of trying to remember
>thirty or forty rules that only peripherally relate to your car is going
>to delay a reaction or cause an incorrect reaction.


Another thing besides a map, gloves and boots:  if you're driving in
areas that are susceptible to snow and cold, pack along a blanket and
a snowmobile suit.  While growing up in the Midwest, I had a "emergency"
box that I kept in my trunk:  map, gloves, snowboots, hat, ski goggles,
snowmobile suit, blanket, flares, "C" rations, etc.  I know, it may
seem extreme to some, but it saved my butt once when I became broken
down out in the middle of nowhere at 2:00 AM on a VERY wintry, snowy
night.  I ate some of the food, set out flares, and put on all the
above-mentioned items.  When no help came after two hours of waiting,
I put on the goggles, grabbed my flashlight and walked 5 miles 'til I
got to a farmhouse.  I was lucky, since I had cold-weather gear on 
me.  I'm not saying this is needed everywhere, but in some parts
of the Northwest, it's just common sense.

allen

In article <1992Dec26.070956.20925@tessi.com>, allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren) writes:
> Another thing besides a map, gloves and boots:  if you're driving in
> areas that are susceptible to snow and cold, pack along a blanket and
> a snowmobile suit.  While growing up in the Midwest, I had a "emergency"
> box that I kept in my trunk:  map, gloves, snowboots, hat, ski goggles,
> snowmobile suit, blanket, flares, "C" rations, etc.  I know, it may
> seem extreme to some, but it saved my butt once when I became broken
> down out in the middle of nowhere at 2:00 AM on a VERY wintry, snowy
> night.  I ate some of the food, set out flares, and put on all the
> above-mentioned items.  When no help came after two hours of waiting,
> I put on the goggles, grabbed my flashlight and walked 5 miles 'til I
> got to a farmhouse.  I was lucky, since I had cold-weather gear on 
> me.  I'm not saying this is needed everywhere, but in some parts
> of the Northwest, it's just common sense.
> 
> allen

Another good item is a tent and a Coleman lamp/stove.  Especially if
you're going from Fairbanks to Anchorage.  === Al Sparks