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Article #110Re: Is Primenet secure ? ...
From: James J. Lippard
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 00:00
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 00:00
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In article <5kli6n$ivs@uofa.agcs.com>, Ted Krueger <kruegert@agcs.com> wrote: >In article <5kaoqd$ha0$1@nnrp01.primenet.com>, >James J. Lippard <lippard@primenet.com> wrote: > >>I am also still curious to know what you were talking about with respect >>to Primenet and definitions of "spam"--you said something to the effect >>that Primenet was attempting to foist some peculiar definition of "spam" >>on its customers and using it as a justification for cancelling users' >>postings. Did you have some particular incident in mind? > >Yep. (Digging back into my memory...) > >I seem to recall that sometime after Christmas there was some back and >forthing about some posts made by Dave (the guy who says that sex should >be open in Christianity...or stuff like that). > >There was, at the time, a Primenet admin named (I think) Chris. He looked >at some of Dave's posts and decided that they were spam, regardless of the >fact that the posts did have application in all the newsgroups they were >sent to (although some connections were tenuous). > >I also seem to recall that Chris (or equivalent) did indeed cancel some >posts (or at least limited the newsgroups that they were posted to). > >I remember posting at the time in defense of Dave, even though I disagree >totally with the claims he makes. > >Feel free to correct me on any of the particulars. I am not aware of >the outcome of this situation, since I spent most of the next month out >of town on business and did not read news much during that time. Ah... I was not employed by Primenet at the time (I spent four months working for another company), but I did see the complaint by Dave Hutchison that you are referring to. I agreed (mostly) with the defenders of Dave; he certainly wasn't engaged in spamming. I don't recall there being any cancellations at issue here, though there was certainly a threat of account cancellation. I've just done a DejaNews search of Dave's name from 11/01/96 to 01/15/97, and I don't see any cancellations of his posts during that period. I'm cc'ing this to Dave so he can let us know if I've simply missed them. In any case, the situation was resolved to the satisfaction of all parties, and Dave is still here. He can speak for himself about how he feels about the incident and its resolution. -- Jim Lippard jl@primenet.com GlobalCenter/Primenet, Phoenix, Arizona PGP Fingerprint: 35 65 66 9F 71 FE 50 57 35 09 0F F6 14 D0 C6 04
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1084c1,809105d55b5345f5 X-Google-Attributes: gid1084c1,public X-Google-Thread: febea,809105d55b5345f5 X-Google-Attributes: gidfebea,public X-Google-Thread: f863a,809105d55b5345f5 X-Google-Attributes: gidf863a,public From: jl@primenet.com (James J. Lippard) Subject: Re: Is Primenet secure ? ... Date: 1997/05/05 Message-ID: <5klnk1$7m5$1@nnrp01.primenet.com> X-Deja-AN: 239644304 References: <335FAB1B.3828@primenet.com> <5k83lq$f84@uofa.agcs.com> <5kaoqd$ha0$1@nnrp01.primenet.com> <5kli6n$ivs@uofa.agcs.com> Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet X-Posted-By: jl@206.165.5.102 (jl) Newsgroups: primenet.general,az.general,az.internet