🚀 go-pugleaf

	Sorry, Tim, you don't understand TCP/IP.

	This is CLEARLY NOT a filter put in by PrimeNet, since they
	are delivering the packets to ExtremeZone's provider, MCI.

	If you don't know what you're talking about, a good position
	is to shut the fuck up, not tell John he's wrong.

	Ehud


In article <5gniru$h97@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, Tim <tim@primenet.com> writes...
#John C. Musselman <john@primenet.com> wrote:
#: Nathan Raciborski <nathan@primenet.com> wrote:
# 
#: : [usr05.primenet.com] (nathan): traceroute extremezone.com
#: : traceroute to extremezone.com (208.129.255.5), 30 hops max, 
#: : 40 byte packets
#: :  1  phx-10-fe6/0.primenet.net (206.165.5.1)  5 ms  1 ms  1 ms
#: :  2  sjc-01-atm1/0-t3.primenet.net (206.165.127.11)  18 ms  19 ms  18 ms
#: :  3  mae-west.cais.net (198.32.136.101)  76 ms  71 ms  62 ms
#: :  4  cpe1.hay.mci.net (198.32.136.72)  106 ms  118 ms  119 ms
#: :  5  core3-hssi2-0.SanFrancisco.mci.net (204.70.1.13)  156 ms  138 ms  
#: :  6  border6-fddi-0.Bloomington.mci.net (204.70.208.66)  180 ms  164 ms
#: :  7  border6-fddi-0.Bloomington.mci.net (204.70.208.66)  165 ms  175 ms
#: :  8  extremezone.Bloomington.mci.net (204.70.215.34)  169 ms *  144 ms
#: :  9  * * *
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# 
#: When I called their Tech Support, I went to voicemail. "All reps are
#: busy". I went to sales... I asked "Why can't I traceroute to you?" I was
#: told, "Sir... we just rebooted our machines. Wanna try it again?"
# 
#: They rebooted all their machines at once? All routers and computers?
# 
#: Hmmm... 5 minutes later...
# 
#: (euid: 110) (/user/j/john)
#: [usr09.primenet.com] 110 (john): traceroute extremezone.com
#: traceroute to extremezone.com (208.129.255.5), 30 hops max, 40 byte
#: packets
#:  1  phx-10-fe6/0.primenet.net (206.165.5.1)  2 ms  1 ms  1 ms
#:  2  sjc-01-atm1/0-t3.primenet.net (206.165.127.11)  20 ms  19 ms  19 ms
#:  3  mae-west.cais.net (198.32.136.101)  66 ms  63 ms  62 ms
#:  4  cpe1.hay.mci.net (198.32.136.72)  114 ms  116 ms  114 ms
#:  5  * core3-hssi2-0.SanFrancisco.mci.net (204.70.1.13)  150 ms  135 ms
#:  6  border6-fddi-0.Bloomington.mci.net (204.70.208.66)  164 ms *  77 ms
#:  7  border6-fddi-0.Bloomington.mci.net (204.70.208.66)  79 ms  76 ms *
#:  8  * extremezone.Bloomington.mci.net (204.70.215.34)  174 ms  197 ms
#:  9  * * *
#: 10  * * *
#: 11  * * *
# 
#: Did they hire Crusty the Clown to administer their network?
# 
#hi john.
# 
#i see you're jumping to wrong conclusions yet again. perhaps you could
#be a little more deceptive, huh? 
# 
#this is the result of a filter put in place by primenet, not from a
#system down condition at extremezone.
# 
#yours truly,
#crusty the clown
# 
#:>
# 
#: --
#: John C. Musselman (JCM2)
#: john@jcm.com
#: Voice: 619-260-6947
# 
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