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In article <54heo5$kr4@Vir.com>, atp@vir.com (Michael Mell) wrote:

> aulne@cam.org wrote:
> 
> >In <murray-ya023180001710961632130001@news.jonction.net>,
murray@macpro.ca (Murray Kastner) ecrivait:
> 
> >>Pas vrai. Si on a eu un question clair et simple, peut-etre. Mais avec la
> >>derniere referendum [...]
> 
> >T'es bien donc hypocrite en disant "on".   Jamais de ta vie tu n'as voulu 
> >savoir quoi que ce soit de la question, qu'elle soit formulee de telle
ou telle
> >maniere, ecrite en francais ou en mandarin.  Ta reponse etait deja faite 
> >d'avance et n'importe quelle question au monde n'aurait rien change a ca.  
> >Tu es vraiment hypocrite.
> 
> 
> >Alain
> 
> I understand your point.  In the context of a question it shouldn't be
> all that important.   People should know long in advance what Yes
> means and what Non means.
> 
> The problem is that it isn't clear long in advance.  The PQ government
> made it quite clear that they are asking for a mandate to negotiate an
> association deal with Canada.  That it wasn't a unilateral
> independence declaration.
> 
> We've come to see this as very deceiving and dishonest.  We don't
> perceive the PQ Government of having any real intention of proceeding
> with anything but a drive towards total independance.  The inclusion
> of the association provisions were only there to gain sufficient vote
> for a 50+1 total. 

I did not see Alain's response because he occupies the highest level of
kill-filter possible. For him to refer to me as a hypocrite, I take as high
praise indeed. 

I would only listen to him if he were dicussing rock musice; there, he is
in his element. But he is quite empty-headed when it comes to politics. And
since it is the will of some here that there be less politics discussed,
let the rock music afficianado have his say. 

I echo your words that the separatists cleverly tried to fool the people by
first delaying the wording of the question and then explaining that they
were only seeking a stronger position in bargaining for more power with
Ottawa. The subsequent publication of Parizeau's YES acceptance speech
would have convinced anyone not emotionally tied to separatism of the
separatists' duplicitousness. But rock-heads prevail, unfortunately...

I really do have to find a way to stop seeing the resident assholes here,
even second-hand. Upsets my day...

,\\urray

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