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In message <51jtcp$qhg@tandem.CAM.ORG> - aulne@cam.org16 Sep 1996 15:57:13
GMT writes:
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:>In <51ea7i$np9@murphy2.servtech.com>, wjw@servtech.com (Wes Warner) ecrivait:
:>
:>>:>>bossed@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Bosse Dominique)13 Sep 96 01:41:30 GMT writes:
:>
:>>:>>	When have you been forbidden to speak in
:>>:>>:>		English?
:>>:>>*** Sign language.
:>
:>>:>La loi oblige ` mettre du fran`cais, mais elle n'interdit pas l'anglais.
:>
:>>**** If you actually read the regulations you
:>>     will see that English 
:>>        (actually any language but French, nudge nudge)
:>>     is banned totally on public transport -- busses

[snip]
:>T'es completement perdu, tu fais de la desinformation.
:>
:>Tu peux lire a tous les jours des affiches sur les autobus 
:>avec de l'anglais qui est ecrit aussi gros que le francais.
:>
:>Ca fa que...  commente autant que tu veux la vie sociale 
:>(!) a T.O., mais fait
:>pas de la desinformation au sujet de Montreal.


*****Here is the Regulation mentioned above
      (on the WWW at 
       http://www.OLF.gouv.qc.ca/charte/pages/c02b.html#01
       French Only)
<quote>
16. La publicit� commerciale d'une entreprise doit �tre faite 
uniquement en fran�ais sur ou dans tout moyen de transport 
public et ses acc�s, y compris les abribus. 

COMMENTAIRES 

1. Cet article est le second article du pr�sent r�glement qui 
interdit l'emploi d'une autre langue que le fran�ais. 
La r�gle pr�vue ici a le m�me effet que celle qui �tait pr�vue,
jusqu'au 22 d�cembre 1993, par l'article 58 
(paragraphe 2 du deuxi�me alin�a) de la
Charte, tel qu'il avait �t� modifi� par la Loi 178 
(1988, chapitre 54). 

2. Noter que, comme l'article pr�c�dent, cet article ne vise 
pas toute forme d'affichage public, mais seulement l'affichage 
commercial. 
<end quote>

**** As the Commentary point 1 makes clear the
     use of any other language but French is
     interdicted (banned totally).

     The quibble that the total ban applies only to
     the "free speach" of businesses does no 
     good for the "free speach" of any business.
     (Business is the source of most bus signs.)   

       (By analogy "Capital Punishment" applies only
        to murderers; totally banning it has no direct 
        impact on anyone else - but is some direct
        consequence to the killers among us.  Further
        it has an indirect but important impact on us all.)     

     Consider the impact of the ban on a business
     that wants to use English on a sign on a public bus 
     in the west island of Montreal where the 
     local population of over 1M is more than 
     the total population of two Canadian 
     provinces combined (PEI plus NS), 
     and over 50% non francophone.
 
     Consider the impact on the social self image
     of the individuals subjected to any public 
     legislated ban on the use of their language. 
         
      (The ban was designed to have a negitive impact on 
       the lives of these anglo people.  It has no impact 
       at all on the lives of Francophones in most of 
       Quebec where the local population is unilingual 
       French, since no business would consider 
       advertising on busses in anything other than French.)  

     Wes