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In article <512hcm$8om@myth.vianet.on.ca>
"E. Charters" <echarter@vianet.on.ca> writes:
 
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>THEIR LANGUAGE IS IN "TROUBLE"..WHAT IS IN TROUBLE IN QUEBEC AND THE
>FRENCH KNOW IT..IS BEING ENGLISH IN BUSINESS IN QUEBEC...AND THEY WOULD
>HAVE THAT TROUBLE SPREAD TO THE REST OF CANADA TOO..I WOULDN'T GIVE THEIR
First, a little less SHOUTING, please. We know you have lowercase; use it!
 
Second, it is ridiculous to think that the PQ wants the rest of Canada
to become francophone or even bilingual. They just want out of Canada
(which I, like the majority of Quebeckers, deplore). Remember, it was
federalists like Trudeau that dreamed up national bilingualism (not
in itself a bad idea) and multi-culturalism and the destruction of the
supremacy of Parliament.
 
>HAVE A SINGLE FRENCH MEMBER...UNLESS THE FRENCH START SEEING THAT THEIR
>RIGHTS TO BE CANADIAN CITIZENS WITH FULL LANGUAGE RIGHTS DEPENDS ON
The struggles that francophone communities outside of NB and Quebec
have to go through to enjoy those 'full language rights' are one of the
factors supporting separatism in Quebec - the reasoning is, 'Why go through
such a hassle to get/maintain the services that make it possible to function
in French, if we can guarantee that this little corner of the world will
be thoroughly francophone by virtue of being a separate country?
 
>MAY WISH, TO BE PROTECTED TOO ..THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO SUCH
>DISCRIMINATION IN ONTARIO OF BC OR NEWFOUNDLAND AS TO THE USE OF THE
>FRENCH LANGUAGE AS THERE IS TO ENGLISH IN QUEBEC...IT IS TOTALLY
Well, there used to be anti-French laws and regulations in Ontario
and Manitoba and if they have been legally repealed by Supreme Court
judgments, you can't say that French-language services of all sorts
(government and commercial) are as widely and effectively available
in Canada as in Quebec. However, we are rapidly approaching that point
as English-language services are declining in Quebec.
 
>UNCONSTITUTIONAL, FARCICAL,A NAKED AUTOCRATIC AND SHAMEFUL FASCIST
>REPRESSION OF A BLAMELESS MINORITY..I WOULD NOT LET THOSE NAZIS IN THE
 
Farcical, yes, the other adjectives are clearly over the top: The
notwithstanding clause (used by Quebec) is in the constitution and the
governments of Quebec have in recent times been elected by processes
that are as democratic as any elsewhere in Canada. As for blameless,
well I certainly would agree with that since my arrival here in '74
and many commentators are coming around to the idea that the francophone
majority cannot continue forever to blame 'les Anglais': thirty plus years
after the Quiet Revolution, it is time to share the responsibility for
the ongoing problems of the Quebec economy and the difficulty it has
recruiting the enthusiastic support of its immigrants. As for Nazis, well
certainly there were Nazi sympathizers among the Quebec elite (but then
even British royalty harboured some) but there is no really aggressive,
widely supported movement afoot to brand all non-francophones as traitors
or to exclude them systematically from all or even some fields of endeavour.
Frncophones are more worried about what it will take to preserve their
uniqueness in the face of modernization/globalization. Canadians everywhere
would benefit by raising the same concerns - unless, of course, you are just
a closet American.
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