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On Fri, 13 Sep 1996 02:44:12 -0400, Elie Charest <turgon@mlink.net>
wrote:

>But see, it's not the reason why I'm a sovereignist. Wether you like it
>or not, Quebec is a distinct society: it's not just the language, it's a
>different culture, with a certain outlook on politics, economics and
>social issues.

I, as well most of Canadians I would think don't really have a problem
with Quebec being distinct in it's culture.
But what exactually distinct means is yet another matter to discuss.

> And Canada is paralyzed by its own nature to change so it
>would meet Quebec's vision.
And your interpretaion of Quebec's vision would seem to be to wrench
Canada into pieces.
Is that what Quebec Sovereignists want?
I do not, nor cannot beleive it is the same as the rest of the people
in Quebec.

>The fact that the notion of two founding nations is rejected by a majority
> outside of Quebec tells the truth about how differently we imagine Canada.

Thats your propaganda view, and you know it. 
    

> It would be better for both nations if Quebec went its own way:
> it's better to be good neighbors than feuding roommates.

But who would it be benifical for, big business, the people of Quebec?
It would certainly mean political and economical suicide for both
parties. 

Lets be real honest here.....this is only our assumption of what would
happen....I'm sure the consquences would be much worse.  

>Hatred! My, how strong you go! Dreams of Power? No. Dreams of democracy
>are what fuel me.

But to what end, destroying the fabric of Canada ?
It does not matter what ethnic background you have, I thought we were
all Canadians first and foremost , just with different cultural
backgrounds.  

> But I'm not an idiot.
That's a matter for later interpretation.

> I know that separation does not mean an ideal society.
How can you say that? It will be an ugly mess...lets be honest.  

>I'm not talking politics to tell other francophones to hate the english.
Possibly not, but just what are you up to?

>I know that's how people like you would like to portray me, because you
>can't find the faults in my arguments.
Argument? You wish to destroy Canada,,,I'm sorry if it upsets you that
the rest of Canada has something to say about it. 

> But I'm really not interesed in that kind of discussion.
Then what the hell are you doing chating accross Canada in the
newsgroups? 

> My point is that Canada has outlived its usefulness. 
That's all it is, your opinion....
The rest of Canada does not seem to be in accord with you on that
point.

>But there can be separation without hate!

Your living in a dreamworld.


>Good for you. Do you live in the province of Quebec?

Do they have to live in Quebec in order to speak French?
If so.... have I been breaking some sort of law all these years by
doing so? 

>> But, nothing in terms of concrete benchmarks or
>> goals to implement. No specific achievements to be pursued other than the
>> destruction of Canada as it is today. Nothing but negativism!
>
>That's your opinion. Of course, you're a little biaised...

What pray tell  would you call your stand?

>> No, the people of Quebec want none of
>> that. They're already fed up with the increasing number of free loaders who
>> exploit what they consider a system which is already too generous.

As do we all.

>Of course you KNOW what Quebecois want. You've got a special antenna
>that feeds you their thought.
And you Sir know exactually what the rest of Canada wants correct?


S.Pickell
A Proud Canadian
"Vive le Canada !"