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Re: Hey Tony Kodak shut-up and...

#470
From: Tony Kondaks
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 00:00
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GAAslin wrote in message <3629f345.545405@news.oricom.ca>...
>"Tony Kondaks" <tkondaks@primenet.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>GAAslin wrote in message <3628eb0b.50313167@news.oricom.ca>...
>>>"Tony Kondaks" <tkondaks@primenet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>I really don't insult ALL separatists, Ilsa, only those that support
>>>>race/hate laws like Bill 101.  Indeed, my insults are equally reserved
for
>>>>federalists such as Stephane Dion who support Bill 101 (actually I hate
>>>>federalists who support Bill 101 MORE than separatists who support Bill
>>>>101).
>>>
>>>Avec tout les imaginations que tu t'es contruite dans ta t�te, t'a pas
>>>fini d'�tre angoiss� !
>>>
>>>Explique-nous l� ce qu'il y a d'�pouvantable dans cette loi !
>>
>>1) Bill 101's  language of education provisions divide Quebecers into two
>>separate civil rights categories.
>
>Rrrrrrright!

Thank you for agreeing with me.

>
>
>>
>>2) Its francization provisions violate freedom of speech and freedom of
>>association.
>
>Hein ??? Comment fais-tu l� pour sauter de l'un � l'autre ?
>
>Alliance Qu�bec existe et personne n'a emp�ch� son existence !!
>Ils peuvent faire des manifestations, crier gueuler ils ont un temps
>d'antennes fou pour une si petite minorit� !

It is quite obvious, GASSY, that you have never bothered to read Bill 101.
I am talking here about "francization" provisions which have to do with
certain sized businesses and their communications.  It has nothing to do
with Alliance Quebec and their right to demonstrate.

Please read the law first before you comment.

>
>Ils ont leurs �coles, leurs commision scolaire, leurs ensemble
>d'hopitaux qui font un travail remarquable dans la tourmente actuelle
>en �tablissant entre eux des consensus de gestion...
>
>Si les franco du reste  du Canada avait la moiti� des privil�ges des
>anglos du Qu�bec, se serait la f�te pendant six mois !
>
>Alors, tu devrais te calmer avec ce sujet.  Tu fabules et tu te
>construit des monstres pour justifier ta parano�a !
>
>>
>>3) Its language of commercial expression, despite Bill 86, still violates
>>freedom of expression and equality rights.
>
>La m�me chose !!! La farce... plut�t malhonn�te

...your argument is with the United Nations' Human Rights Committee and the
Supreme Court of Canada, not with me...

>
>
>>
>>4) Bill 101 makes only French the official language of Quebec.  Both
English
>>and French should be the official languages of Quebec.
>
>
>L'obsession, l'obsession...
>
>Mais quand m�me, tu fais ce qu'il faut si tu l'aime tant l'anglais et
>que t'est pas capable de voir et entendre cette maudite langue
>fran�aise... bien on d�m�nage vers les siens, on a rien contre �a, �a
>fait parti de votre libre choix !
>
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>Ne crains rien, on d�j� rectifier que distinct n'�gale pas
>>>sup�rieur...
>>>
>>>alors on est peut-�tre encore assez intelligent pour trouver d'autres
>>>erreurs du m�me genre, c'est en parlant qu'on se comprend !
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Indeed, as I have written here many times, I would rather live in a
>>separate
>>>>Quebec which respected human rights than a Quebec within Canada that
>>didn't.
>>>
>>>Allons donc, la Charte des droits qu�b�coises est plus g�n�reuse
>>>encore envers les minorit�s et les peuples sur son territoire que la
>>>charte canadienne !
>>
>>I agree...and have said that myself countless times.
>>
>>Indeed, that is why the Supreme Court of Canada found bill 101's language
of
>>commercial expression provisions in violation of more provisions of the
>>Quebec Charter of Rights than in the Canadian Charter of Rights.
>>
>
>Bin oui bin oui, pi tant�t la Cour Supr�me du Qu�bec va d�clar� que
>les anglos ont trop de pouvoir et de droit dans un Qu�bec souverain...

Actually, the PQ has already said that all the rights that anglos now enjoy
will be respected in a sovereign Quebec.  Since the National Assembly will
become responsible for all the federal powers that Ottawa now is responsible
for and since all of these federal powers have the protection of official
bilingualism, the National Assembly will become officially bilingual in an
independent Quebec.

So I welcome independence in this regard.

>
>Je suis qu'� ce moment l� tu vas te plier � la d�cision de la cour,
>c'est s�r !
>
>
>>>
>>>O� tu t'informes coudonc ?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>And, by the way, Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS, didn't you promise never to
>>>>respond to my posts again if I wrote in the evil English language?  Now,
>>>>technically, you haven't done that here because you responded to GASSY's
>>>>post and not directly to mine...but you did respond to me nonetheless.
>>Hey,
>>>>can't you keep your word?  Don't you have ANY will-power?
>>>>
>>>>You just can't stop being obsessed with me, can you Ilsa?  Always
thinking
>>>>about me...
>>>
>>>Bon bon bon, qu'est-ce que Ilsa la louve des SS vient faire ici ?
>>>Tu veux te discr�diter totalement, �viter de discuter intelligemment,
>>>continuer � d�velopper tes obssesions parano�aques!
>>>
>>>Bien c,est comme tu veux, mais laisse moi te dire que tu n'en a pas
>>>fini !  Charest viens de se couler dans le ciment avec son beau
>>>programme � la Harris, il vient de perdre un million d'�lecteurs d'une
>>>claque !
>>
>>Good!
>>
>>I'd rather have Bouchard win than that idiot John James.
>>
>>>Le PQ sera � nouveau au pouvoir, et si Chr�tien n'est pas
>>>rapidement remplac�, et bien s'en sera fait du Qu�bec dans le Canada !
>>>
>>>Alors tes angoisses n'auront pas fini de grandir car la cour supr�me
>>>sera Qu�b�coise !  Et elle privil�giera la protection de la langue et
>>>de la culture francophone en am�rique !
>>
>>...why don't you consider whether individual and private initiatives
>>WITHOUT GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION could succeed better to promoting and
>>protecting the French language and culture in Quebec?  Why this
>>obsessiveness with passing laws?  What makes you think laws will protect
>>you?
>
>
>Tu demande � une victime de viol, de faire confiance � son violeur
>pour la prot�ger !
>
>Tu r�ves en couleur et tu n'as aucune perception de la r�alit� !
>
>Tu vis dans un monde imaginaire qui va toujours se confronter avec la
>r�alit� !
>
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________
>
>Pour la promotion et la protection du fait fran�ais en am�rique.
>Votre nation et la n�tre sont distinctes dans le sens de diff�rent.
>Votre culture est plus pragmatique, plus ax� sur l'accumulation de bien
>et la notre est plus po�tique plus tendre et plus communautaire.
>Cel� n'est en rien une preuve de sup�riorit�,
>mais uniquement une preuve de diff�renciation !
>Si les anglos ne r�ussissent pas � comprendre ceci,
>la souverainet� du Qu�bec se fera. Point.
>
>GAAslin
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From: "Tony Kondaks" <tkondaks@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: Hey Tony Kodak shut-up and...
Date: 1998/10/18
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