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In <34444F0F.64A60679@seas.gwu.edu.NOSPAM> Alan Davis
<adavis@seas.gwu.edu.NOSPAM> writes: 
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>Carol Ann Hemingway wrote:
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>> In <620v2h$ojc@nnrp1.farm.idt.net> "John Dyson"
<jrdyson@pipeline.com>
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>> >Carol Ann Hemingway wrote in message
>> <61uo09$360@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com>...
>> >>In <61ukb6$hro@nnrp3.farm.idt.net> "John Dyson"
>> <jrdyson@pipeline.com>
>> >>writes:
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>> >>          Knowing, first hand, the pain divorce can bring, I would
>> >>          have a hard time accepting that most people bail at the
>> >>          first sign of stress.
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>> >Well, it may be a 'generational' thing, too.  Most of the people
with> whom I>work, that have been divorced...the majority were married
for>> relatively>short periods of time--from 1 to 4 years.  And, for
the most>> part, these>marriages were disovled for the stupidest
reasons, or> because one of the>partners decided he/she didn't want to
try to fix a> problem....one that I,>from the outside, thought was
rather simple to>> fix--but would just take a>little WORK.  Something
that a LOT of the>> younger couples simply don't want>to give.
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>>             That may be.  If there are no children involved, perhaps
>>             it is better to discover early that marriage isn't good
>>             for everyone.
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>Perhaps, teahc our children thedifference between love and lust?

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            I agree with that.
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>> >I know the "pain of divorce," too...and I feel I know from where I
>> speak.>Of course, I'm not a PhD in mariage or anything...but I do
see things around>me.
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>> >>           Making it expensive will only
>> >>           subject folks to not get on with life, and endure more
>> >>           problems than getting it done.  Premarital counseling
>> >>           is probably most important.
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>> >Hmmm...I dunno.  I'm not 'sold' on this whole 'counceling' thing. 
It>> seems odd that life went on, mostly happily, for thousands of
years> without professional 'councelors' to tell everybody what they're
>> feeling.  I'm not>so sure that I put much stock into that notion.
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>I'm sold on it.  The counseling may take the placeof a culture that
has so>come to endorse divorce,>that it has lightened it's opinion of
marriage as well.
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>>           Whatever makes you think those couples were HAPPY?   Women
>>           were unable to divorce in marriages where they couldn't
>>           find work outside the home.  Our divorce rate isn't just
>>          because divorce is easy, but because women are able to make
>>          choices other than marriage.  Back in what you might call
>>          "the good old days" women who were beaten regularly in
>>          marriage might have found that more acceptable than leaving
>>           their children and starving to death.  Because women have
>>             more options there are bound to be more divorces.
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>Or, as well, because society has endorsedgetting out as equivalent to
>working it out.

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        Absent domestic abuse, I'm all for counseling.  
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>> >>           Also, I think we have to
>> >>            recognize that some folks are simply not cut out for
>> >>            marriage.
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>> >Now, THAT I agree with.
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>>             Lefty
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> Me, too.
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