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Steen Goddik (sgoddik@sunflowr.usd.edu) wrote:
: On 7 Oct 1997, Karl Denninger wrote:

: > Again, the Gospel (if you believe in such) is rather clear on the truth of
: > this matter.  And again, it is the NOW folks who are pandering to this
: > version of their beliefs, and not the PK people.  I watched CNN for quite a
: > while this weekend, and the PK spokesmen who were on made this very clear --
: > their views track that of the bible.

: While the Gospel obviously makes the submitting two-way, the PK leaders
: have not.  For one, they do not say that men should submit to women.  And
: secondly, they state that men should TAKE back the role as HOH (The
: emphasis is the PK's, not mine).
How specifically do Promise Keepers deny the two-way submission (actually,
it should be three way: man to woman, woman to man, woman & man to God)?



: > >But I cannot support such an organization
: > >that doesn't support human rights as a whole.
: > 
: > Please document this.  I've seen no evidence of that behavior or lack of
: > support, and my views towards the PKers would change in a heartbeat if I
: > actually *DID* see evidence of that.

: What about the issue of ONLY christians being of the right religion (I
: guess that makes most of the rest of the world pagan?).  It is right up
: there with the fundamentalist preachers condeming Mother Teresa to hell,
: because she was not a born-again!!!  And heaven help you (pun intended) if
Actually, Mother Teresa acknowledged that Jesus was the only way to
salvation, and the reason for what she did what she did. Some
Fundementalists would say she's not born again simply because she was
Catholic (which, probability-wise would be true, but not absolutely)

: you are a homosexual, or any other identifiable "bad" sinner (as compared
: to the insignificant sinner such as the ones showing "pride," although
: these are compared at the same place in the Bible).

Actually, it should be "God help you".  (That's supposed to be truth with
humor). 
Anyway--Yeah, Fundementalists often ignore pride, which as you aptly point
out, is just as bad as homosexuality, though much subtler. The avid
anti-homosexuals will read the second half of Romans 1, but ignore Romans 2,
which condemns those who judge others.
(It's interesting--Pride is what destroyed the devil--nothing sexual!)



: Steen Goddik 
: sgoddik@sunflowr.edu.com
: "Go birdwatching and take a breath of air"
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