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In article <61ghda$9n6@xochi.tezcat.com>,
Daniel B. Holzman <holzman@xochi.tezcat.com> wrote:
>In article <61g9uq$9hk$1@Mars.mcs.net>, Karl Denninger <karl@MCS.COM> wrote:
>>>
>>>005:023 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the
>>>head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 
>>>005:024 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives
>>>be to their own husbands in every thing. 
>>>005:025 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church,
>>>and gave himself for it; 
>>
>>A husband is called to submit himself to his wife. This obligation is
>>specifically stated to persist even *to the point of his own death* in 
>>this regard.
>
>The word "submit" does not occur in the passage you quote.
>

the more i see of this thread the more convinced i am that it is
somewhat hopeless to debate with karl denninger.  i also wondered
where he was getting the word "submit" (i.e. the husband is to...)
out of the passage that you cited.  yet, based upon his later comments
it seems that the gospel is unambigous, and "clear" - which is the
problem with religious use of the bible: everyone claims that it is
clear but so many people seem to interpret it different ways.

i think that the bible, if used properly is a very good book as it
says a lot about the human experience.  the problem, as i see it, is
that so many "religious" people get hung up on what they see to be
the "clear" literal interpretation that they lose track of what the
stories are really trying to say.  for instance, the "walk on water"
story is really saying that if you would only believe in yourself
you would surprise yourself with what you can do.  but many get so
hung up on whether you do, or do not believe that two guys *actually*
walked on water, that the point gets missed.  such is the case when
you try to get too literal with the bible...

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