Re: NOW challenge to PK

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From: Gerard S. Harbison
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:00

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Tom Revay wrote:

> But she was lucky.  My wife has an extremely common Irish name, and though
> they can trace themselves back to the Famine, that's where their history ends.
> The 1840's is as far back as they can go.

That's not unusual. Even if they could trace them back a generation or
two before the famine, the Penal Laws that essentially outlawed the
Catholic Church in Ireland would prevent there being any parish records,
etc. much before 1800.  You may recall that Frederick Douglass, after
visiting Ireland in 1848, said that the condition of the people was so
bad it made him ashamed to plead for an end to slavery.

(There's another problem in that most civil records pre-1900 were burned
in the Custom House fire in 1921. (You may remember it from 'Michael
Collins'))

I can trace the Harbisons to about 1800. Because they were Catholics,
there are only fragmentary records before that, though we know they came
over from lowland Scotland in the 1690s.

> 
> And me?  I know nothing about my ancestry before about 1870.  That's a shorter
> time than many African-Americans can trace their ancestry.

Genealogy works best for the scions of the rich or middle class. Few
people noticed when or how the peasants lived or died.

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From: "Gerard S. Harbison" <gerry@chem-gharbison.unl.edu>
Subject: Re: NOW challenge to PK
Date: 1997/10/23
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