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Article #90Re: NOW challenge to PK
From: Alan Davis
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 00:00
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 00:00
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Carol Ann Hemingway wrote: > In <620v2h$ojc@nnrp1.farm.idt.net> "John Dyson" <jrdyson@pipeline.com> > writes: > >Carol Ann Hemingway wrote in message > <61uo09$360@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com>... > >>In <61ukb6$hro@nnrp3.farm.idt.net> "John Dyson" > <jrdyson@pipeline.com> > >>writes: > >> -------- > >> Knowing, first hand, the pain divorce can bring, I would > >> have a hard time accepting that most people bail at the > >> first sign of stress. > > > >Well, it may be a 'generational' thing, too. Most of the people with > whom I>work, that have been divorced...the majority were married for > relatively>short periods of time--from 1 to 4 years. And, for the most > part, these>marriages were disovled for the stupidest reasons, or > because one of the>partners decided he/she didn't want to try to fix a > problem....one that I,>from the outside, thought was rather simple to > fix--but would just take a>little WORK. Something that a LOT of the > younger couples simply don't want>to give. > > ----------- > That may be. If there are no children involved, perhaps > it is better to discover early that marriage isn't good > for everyone. Perhaps, teahc our children thedifference between love and lust? > >I know the "pain of divorce," too...and I feel I know from where I > speak.>Of course, I'm not a PhD in mariage or anything...but I do see > things around>me. > > > >> Making it expensive will only > >> subject folks to not get on with life, and endure more > >> problems than getting it done. Premarital counseling > >> is probably most important. > > > >Hmmm...I dunno. I'm not 'sold' on this whole 'counceling' thing. It > seems odd that life went on, mostly happily, for thousands of years > without professional 'councelors' to tell everybody what they're > feeling. I'm not>so sure that I put much stock into that notion. I'm sold on it. The counseling may take the placeof a culture that has so come to endorse divorce, that it has lightened it's opinion of marriage as well. > --------- > Whatever makes you think those couples were HAPPY? Women > were unable to divorce in marriages where they couldn't > find work outside the home. Our divorce rate isn't just > because divorce is easy, but because women are able to make > choices other than marriage. Back in what you might call > "the good old days" women who were beaten regularly in > marriage might have found that more acceptable than leaving > their children and starving to death. Because women have > more options there are bound to be more divorces. > ------------------------------------------------ Or, as well, because society has endorsedgetting out as equivalent to working it out. > >> Also, I think we have to > >> recognize that some folks are simply not cut out for > >> marriage. > > > >Now, THAT I agree with. > > Lefty Me, too. -- Al Davis ***** A Displaced Cub Fan in DC ***** adavis@seas.gwu.edu I like two teams: The Cubs and whoever is playing the Mets Vote Santo into the Hall of Fame! Let's play two!
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fe6e4,c2790f16bb9117a8 X-Google-Attributes: gidfe6e4,public X-Google-Thread: 10e835,c2790f16bb9117a8 X-Google-Attributes: gid10e835,public X-Google-Thread: 15f5e3,c2790f16bb9117a8 X-Google-Attributes: gid15f5e3,public X-Google-Thread: fdc4a,c2790f16bb9117a8 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdc4a,public X-Google-Thread: f5de8,c2790f16bb9117a8 X-Google-Attributes: gidf5de8,public X-Google-Thread: 115ded,c2790f16bb9117a8 X-Google-Attributes: gid115ded,public X-Google-Thread: 1082f5,c2790f16bb9117a8 X-Google-Attributes: gid1082f5,public From: Alan Davis <adavis@seas.gwu.edu.NOSPAM> Subject: Re: NOW challenge to PK Date: 1997/10/15 Message-ID: <34444F0F.64A60679@seas.gwu.edu.NOSPAM> X-Deja-AN: 280599058 References: <61dror$2f2$6@gail.ripco.com> <61g8vn$4jr@xochi.tezcat.com> <343c2378.33748473@news1.ibm.net> <61hdk9$58j@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com> <343CFB58.4FEE557A@seas.gwu.edu.NOSPAM> <61jegt$1ac@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> <61ukb6$hro@nnrp3.farm.idt.net> <61uo09$360@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> <620v2h$ojc@nnrp1.farm.idt.net> <621e2t$5mv@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> Organization: George Washington University X-Received-On: 15 Oct 1997 05:06:36 GMT Reply-To: adavis@seas.gwu.edu.NOSPAM Newsgroups: rci.general,chi.media,chi.general,alt.feminism,soc.women,soc.men,alt.politics.liberalism