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Re: Best Recordable Port'MD Player?

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From: Vivian Collins
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 00:00
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Mike Glantz wrote:
> 
> lucifersam wrote:
> > Wrong again by the 5 or 6 gen of md it will easily surpass both cd and
> > dat because of drastically improved techniques in the atrac chip
> > possibly implamenting mpeg II or mpeg III.
> 
> Um, I happen to be a MD fan, but let's keep the facts straight. ATRAC
> is still a lossy, perceptual coding algorithm with audible generation
> losses. At what point they become audible depends on the person and
> the material. Tests have been reported that *nobody* can hear
> differences
> on the 2rd generation on *any* material. Beyond that, I would make no
> claims, and I would certainly not advocate MD where multi-generation
> lossless processing is a requirement (which is the case in much
> recording work, but not all). After several generations, CD and DAT
> are simply going to win, by definition.
> 
> On the technical side, while some of the mpeg audio compression
> algorithms are quite similar to ATRAC (and PASC used in DCC), they
> aren't identical. ATRAC is a Sony original, and not compatible
> with any of the mpeg algorithms.
> 
> > Check out this web page for more info on MD-------
> > http://www.connact.com/~eaw/minidisc.html
> 
> Indeed the minidisc page maintained by Eric Woudenberg and
> others is an excellent source of MD info, particularly if one
> is looking for facts and has an open mind.
I Hope that; everyone who is complaining about the MD being a lossy
 compression technique are true to their beliefs and stick by the
LD player when DVD arrives as DVD uses compression techniques to fit the 
entire movie onto a CD
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From: Vivian Collins <dragonentrprises@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Best Recordable Port'MD Player?
Date: 1997/01/20
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