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Article #1335Re: Slew Rates and Mic Pre performance
From: Alan Rutlidge
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 08:16
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 08:16
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"Don Pearce" <donald@pearce.uk.com> wrote in message news:1jlu9dz4m6nho$.9bip6dnzgr15$.dlg@40tude.net... > On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 17:25:01 +1000, Phil Allison wrote: > >> "Alan Rutlidge" >> "Arny Krueger" >>> >>>> >>>> It takes significant distances for audio electrical signals to >>>> demonstrate things like reflections and standing waves. For most >>>> practical purposes, they never happen because by the time the audio >>>> goes >>>> that far in the modern world, its probably already been digitized. >>>> >>>> >>> Digitising an audio signal does not eliminate propagation delay if the >>> signal is transmitted over a long distance. To demonstrate this in >>> combination with the problem of impedance mismatch - make an >>> international >>> telephone call to a third world country like India. The echo you hear >>> is >>> usually 100% attributable to poor impedance mismatch at the other end of >>> the line. And guess what? It's all occurring at audio frequencies >>> (300Hz >>> to 3400Hz). >> >> >> ** ROTFLMAO !!!! >> >> Does this Rutmaniac, fucking idiot actually teach such monumental >> **BULLSHIT** to IT industry trainees ???? >> >> Only the dullest teenagers would fall for such utter shite !!! >> >> >> FYI >> >> Telecommunications data is digital ( not audio) and travels to places >> like >> India via optical fibre and geo-stationery satellites - not thousands >> of >> miles of bloody co-ax !! >> >> What a complete MORON !!!! >> >> >> >> .......... Phil > > So Phil. It is digital right up to the phone at the far end, is it? That > phone doesn't have a hybrid transformer, does it? That transformer doesn't > have a limited sidetone spec, does it? The match of phone to line is > perfect is it? There is no signal reflection from that phone, is there? > That reflected power isn't digitised by the codec is it? That digitised > signal isn't audible at the sending end as an echo is it? And the fact > that > these signals might use satellites or optical fibre somehow magically > makes > all these reflected signals disappear, does it? > > Only only planet Phil does the world work this way. > > d Don, Fair go mate.(wink) You don't honestly thinks a toaster repairman needs to know much about impedance mismatch do you? :P Oh, and it looks as if I've been elevated from wire tugging status to Information Technologist virtually overnight. :) Phil could never get his lies straight - err no pun intended..:) You know, one of these days he's actually gonna get something right about me. When that happens I'll duck out and by a lottery ticket. Cheers, Alan
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