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Damn, missed this post:

On Aug 9, 11:30 am, klu...@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
> Industrial One  <industrial_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> No, Usenet is MUCH older than that.  Usenet started out in the eighties
> doing store and forward text messaging over uucp lines.  I suggest that
> you go to news.announce.newusers and read the general discussion about
> what Usneet is and how it got that way.  Traditionally most newsreaders
> would force users to read through n.a.n before going on to anything else,
> but sadly this is not common any more.

1979, I know. Crazy.

> >I got a couple questions:
>
> >1. Is the traffic encrypted?
>
> No.  Usenet came out of an era where privacy and security were not primary
> concerns, and where users were trusted much more than they are today.

Yeah right... hackers owned the place back then, script kiddies
followed and finally: dipshits. What threat could they be? Copyright
infringement ain't a government concern. Access to the Munitions Black
book and Anarchy text files were, especially if the secret service had
to force some newsservers to shut down back in the late 80s. Not to
mention the lolicon japs kept spreading around the same time.

> >2. Is your IP concealed. If so, how?
>
> No.  Most news servers will put your sending IP address in the header.
> Some won't, but it depends on your ISP's server.  It's generally polite
> to do so.

So the MAFIAA can pay me a visit once they see it? Like they did
Jammie Thomas? Fuck that!

> >3. How does it compare to modern P2P networks (e.g. Gnutella/
> >FastTrack) overall, in terms of security, stability, upload/download
> >querying etc.?
>
> It's totally different and it's not intended for that.  It's a system
> intended for discussion groups, which got extended to carry binary files
> as well when bandwidth got cheap.  Although the binary files now make up
> the majority of the traffic they actually are the least useful and important
> part of Usenet.

you're breakin my balls here >:\

> >I'm also aware that unpopular content untouched for a week is
> >automatically removed, which is one thing P2P networks have over
> >Usenet, but also makes it depend on a users will to share (usually
> >bullshit dial-up speeds of like 5 KB/s), which Usenet has over P2P, so
> >meh.
>
> That is something your server does.  In general, all messages get expired
> after a certain time.  Some servers set things up so that messages get
> expired faster if they are read more.  Some servers set things up so that
> when they run low on disk space they start dumping the oldest messages until
> the spool is at a reasonable level.  Different servers have different
> expiration rules, and expiring after a week seems like a reasonable thing
> to do.

I see.

> Usneet is not for long-term file storage, it's for short-term transfer of
> time-dependant messages.  Don't expect anything to last long.

: /

> There are hundreds of different newsreaders out there for different computer
> systems, and there are thousands of different news servers out there.  They
> are all different because they're all set up by different people with different
> aims and constraints.
> --scott
> --
> "C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

I see.