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Article #2076Re: ROBERT MOREIN - NUTCASE, CRACKPOT, "I don't really have a replacement career, it's a very gnawing thing."
From: Scott Dorsey
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:20
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:20
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Industrial One <industrial_one@hotmail.com> wrote: > >Fuck! I thought transfers on Usenet were designed to be re-routed thru >a numbers of other nodes/servers before reaching the destination. In >this case, when I download a song and my request is queried thru other >nodes before reaching me, the RIAA can't do shit and I'm safe. If >Usenet can't accomplish this, then I guess it ain't the network I >thought it was. You, sir, are one of the people who are destroying Usenet and causing the kind of reaction against it that is becoming a problem. Yes, Usenet does forward your message from node to node until it gets to many different destinations, but the header information allows it to be tracked. Usenet was designed without security in mind, but it wasn't designed by idiots. Without having path information, it's impossible to debug propagation problems. >An ideal decentralized network would be operated by a professional, >trustworthy closed-source client that bootstraps, assigns peers with >fast connections to become supernodes, who will be constantly >connected to each other, each about a thousand peers connected to >them, their IP, list of files and the metadata of the files, and when >a peer searches for something, his request is queried to the supernode >he is connected to, which searches his list of peers for matches, and >passes the request on to another supernode if no matches are found and >so on, when a match is found, the IP of that peer and the files that >match are sent to the original requester and he starts downloading. >The communication between supernodes and peers should be heavily >encrypted, to prevent gaming the network. The list of supernodes must >have a way to be always accessible, as most are temporary and may not >be supernodes tomorrow, thus the network could lose its scalability if >users quit using the software for a week and are now unable to connect >'cuz their list is outdated. Preferably, at least one supernode must >be permanent, or have a central directory server keep track, where the >network client connects to automatically. (Kazaa made this mistake by >having connection to the network dependant on their official website >existing. When the RIAA shut it down, obviously it was harder to keep >the network alive. A system like this would allow scumbag thieves to steal intellectual property. Usenet is most certainly not designed for that, although for that matter it wasn't designed to prevent it either. If we had to build something like this in the modern era, I think we'd put a lot more traceability into it than we did when we built Usenet. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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