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On Mar 4, 9:10 am, "Rick Paul" <rickp...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I have no experience with Melodyne, but I have used both V-Vocal and
> AutoTune.  I strongly prefer AutoTune, both for how invisible you can make
> the pitch correction sound if you know what you're doing, whereas, to my
> ears, V-Vocal tends to impart a subtle flavor which feels a bit electronic
> to my ears,

Agreed. Imo, the older versions of AutoTune have
a grainier sound, but a sound that can sit well in tracks.

I don't know V-Vocal but I find the instant "sound"
of Melodyne too clean/thin and less "musical" to
my ears. I know I'm being subjective, and I do
realize there are ways around it. Auto-Tune
Evo is also cleaner-sounding than its predecessor.

But I still wanna save up for Melodyne for
reharmonization, re-writing melodies,
harmony arrangements, smooth timestretching,
and all the different ways the melody or
chords can be manipulated.

> and for the general interface for tuning (it's a lot easier for
> me to control drawing of pitch curves in their graphic mode due to having a
> Bezier curve function that lets you just place points and let it connect
> them, rather than having to have more accurate mouse skills).

In Waves Tune it's possible to mouse-draw the pitch curve.
I didn't find a way to do this in Melodyne, is it possible?

Is it possible to mouse draw the pitch curve in Auto
Tune, graphical mode?

I know Melodyne can export to midi file with pitch bend
info, so that makes it possible to paste vibrato onto a
dead straight note.
Melodyne can increase or decrease the *amount* of
vibrato but that's not the same thing.

The main thing I'd wanna do is to apply bends and
vibrato from say, modern R&B, Indian music,
Old Blues, etc... to certain notes sung by someone
with slack, non-specific (or too retro) phrasing.

I'm convinced they did this to one particular
Pop song that's out in the UK at the moment,
ie copy the vibrato information from the demo vocalist/
backing singer onto the notes of the artist's
lead vocal.
A below average British singer with an impeccable
contemporary "American" R&B vibrato?? Lol, I don't
know *any* British singers that can nail that phrasing
properly. Someone's been clicking the mouse.

>
> However, the version of AutoTune I'm using (from memory, I think V4?) only
> deals with pitch correction, not stuff like larger shifts for harmonization
> and time shifting (e.g. to tighten up background vocals against the lead
> vocal).  Thus, my general M.O. has been to use AutoTune for lead vocals and
> any other exposed parts, and use V-Vocal when I also need to do some time
> corrections on parts that will be buried a bit more (mainly background
> vocals, but sometimes also lead vocal doubles, which I tend to mix behind
> the lead vocal by 9 dB or more).
>
> If I remember correctly, the latest version of AutoTune also has some newer
> functionality, more like Melodyne and V-Vocal.  I haven't tried that to
> date, though.
>
> Rick
>
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> "muzician21" <muzicia...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > Anyone have recent experience with these apps?
>
> > Having looked at some YouTube vid, Melodyne and V-Vocal seem to be
> > similar. I've read some older posts where some felt V-Vocal wasn't on
> > par with Melodyne, wonder if that's still true.
>
> > I've downloaded the demo of Melodyne, I haven't gotten deep into it
> > but it's obviously in a different universe than the pitch correction
> > I'm used to - i.e. wrestling with envelopes in Soundforge 5.